Template talk:Languages bookshelf

Finnish
The Finnish language books must not be sorted under "Other Indo-European", but under "Finno-Ugric", since Finnish is not part of the Indo-European branch. Can someone correct this? JorisvS 13:50, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

"Q-Celtic"
"Q-Celtic" should be changed to just "Celtic"; Q-Celtic is a somewhat outdated term that reflects a particular theoretical POV. Also, Irish:Gaeilge na hÉireann and Scottish Gaelic for the Family should be added to the list. w:User:Angr 19:42, 27 August 2006 (UTC)

Klingon
Could this wikibook be added to the list of constructed languages? Jonathan Webley 07:54, 12 April 2007 (UTC)

Reorganising this template
On the bookshelf's talk page we have been discussing ideas to reorganise both the full languages bookshelf list and the associated template (this one). The main idea is to replace classification of the books by language families and instead to classify languages by continents only. I would like to refer anyone interested in reading or participating in this discussion (you're still in time!) over there. We have now implemented the chief, consensually agreed changes as far as the full list is concerned, but it remains to adapt the template. If somebody with the authority needed to edit the template would like to do so, the following could be copied there for now any time you like. In view of the ongoing discussion it is still possible that there will be some further changes, but they will be less major than this one.

Thank you. --A R King 15:12, 9 June 2007 (UTC)


 * I'm not sure if the template was unlocked, or if we had just confused registered-user-only locking for protection, but in any case, I have gone ahead and implemented the change. -- Kowey 12:28, 10 June 2007 (UTC)

"Rules" for inclusion in the languages bookshelf template
These are negotiatable, of course, but I thought it would be useful for future reference to summarise here the conclusions from recent discussion of this on the Languages bookshelf page:

Organisation by continents : Items are organised by continents where applicable, followed by other categories (such as "constructed", "other books"...). Order of continents : On the template, the continents are ordered according to the number of items listed for each (most first), otherwise alphabetically. Which items to include : Normally, only books whose progress icons indicate at least 25% completion will be included in the template. Languages with more than one book : When more than one book for a single language is elegible for inclusion in the template by the above criteria, the template will not contain a link to the individual books but to a listing of all the wikibooks relevant to the language in question. (These lists will also be transcluded into the complete language list on the bookshelf page.) --A R King 09:30, 11 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Note: "Continents" refers to the continent where a particular language was formed (thus English and Spanish are "European", but Tok Pisin is "Pacific", Afrikaans is "African", etc.).
 * Note: In the complete bookshelf list, on the contrary, all the continents are in alphabetical order.
 * Exception: Other books may be included to bring the number of items for a continent up to a minimum of three.


 * I have tweaked Alan's comment to say "negotiable" instead of "not nonnegotiable" :-) -- Kowey 09:38, 11 June 2007 (UTC)


 * I shall not refrain from saying: "thank you"! :-) :-) --A R King 09:46, 11 June 2007 (UTC)

Bookshelf for "Other Language Books"?
There are now a couple of "other language books". Since they tend to have rather long titles, I think they take too much space in this template. What about making a bookshelf for them? --Martin Kraus (talk) 20:04, 4 December 2008 (UTC)