Talk:Yiddish for Yeshivah Bachurim/Reading Yiddish

The oy vowel
My Yiddish isn't amazing, but I can't think of any words that are pronounced oy by Litvish and aw by Poylish. The only one I'm not sure about is אױס, which is pronounced oys by Litvish, and I can't remember, but may be pronounced aws by Poylish. The other thing which comes close is אױף, which is pronounced awf even by Litvish. If these are the only two words (feel free to name others), then they are an exception to the rule, not the rule, and certainly don't deserve to be the first of the ways of pronouncing ױ. Clum (talk) 15:43, 9 January 2008 (UTC)
 * There are two distinct vowels rendered as וי in Yiddish. A good example is טויב. This word means dove when pronounced tawp (P)/toyb (L) and it means deaf when pronounced toyp (P)/teyb (L).


 * The preposition אויף is indeed an exception: it is pronounced of (P)/af (L).


 * There is also the verbal prefix אויפ- which is pronounced uf- by Litvaks as in ufruf, ufgeregt.


 * You are correct about אױס, but there are many more words like it. Unfortunately, too many Yiddish speakers nowadays never learnt the language from native speakers. For example גענוי


 * Anyway, I am not averse to changing the order.
 * --Redaktor (talk) 11:57, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

polish vav
The value given of the polish single vav is ambiguous ("read" may be the present or past, as they are homographs). The vowel meant by the author is probably the same as in "heat", "beat", "meet", since the past tense of "read" would be more easily given as "red" or some such. However, it should be clarified, and as I'm not familiar with yiddish dialectology I would not be confident editing the page. Telmac (discuss • contribs) 08:18, 2 January 2015 (UTC)