Talk:Seven Habits Study Guide

I say we merge "Private victory" and "Public victory" into the overview. There's a great deal of redundant information between them, and I really can't imagine any good reason to keep them separate. Though it might be nice to have a quick summary one place and a detailed elucidation elsewhere, the separate pages we have now are almost identical. Besides, there's already a "Quick Sheet" on the overview, complete with one-sentence explanations of each step, and our current overview isn't yet large enough to require separate summaries.

Also, unless we decide against my recommendation and instead make the separate overviews noticeably different in scope, we should probably rename the overview page from "Quick overview of the seven habits" to "Overview of the seven habits". An overview is brief by definition, and I don't think what we have qualifies as a brief overview anymore &mdash; certainly not in comparison to the other, split summary.

&mdash; Elembis 03:52, 21 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Thanks for your effort on this wikibook. Please keep up the good work. I will be sure to come back for more. 213.112.182.70 10:25, 10 May 2006 (UTC)

Practical Application (and I'm a newbie)
I've skimmed the currently written sections of this wikibook, and being someone who had some trouble fully applying the principles in a coordinated way, should we perhaps add comments about how to "personalize" the approach so it works for you? I think I'm finally starting to get it, but I'm sure others would have found it easy to "give up" at some point rather than sticking with it until they found a way for it to work. I strongly think one of us should either create a new section, or put into one of the sections something about how to personalize. For example, I had to do something more intense than just apply Habits 4, 5, and 6 to get the interpersonal "sharpening the saw"; I needed to have at least a few relationships with people that met certain criteria for me, what I consider "close friendships," in order to effectively not go insane :-). The thing is it took me 2 years after seriously trying to apply the 7 Habits to figure this out!  This happened during a time in my life where I did not have friends of sufficient closeness for a long period enough period of time that I noticed how essential they are, at least for me.  I'm sure other people may have similar-type problems in other areas that interfere with their ability to apply the principles in Covey's book.  I think addressing this in some way for a "study guide" would be helpful.

Also, some people I've talked to after they read the book still had the perspective of "quick fix," in applying Covey's principles, rather than the non-quick fix nature of these principles he is attempting to promote. This is despite the fact that they could repeat back to me that Covey is trying to communicate that they are inviolable principles. Perhaps something can be added for this as well? I'm rather new to wikibooks, and trying to think through how I should edit them. (is there a guide for this?) - Gabriel Koulikov 07:15, 29 July 2006 (UTC)

Complicated
I do feel Covey's book is complicated and is in need of reorganization and prioritisation of topics. I strongly feel that success books should NOT have stories of people -- that's hardly useful. What matters are the principles. You want to tell me how John succeeded at tennis? Fine, write the techniques or attitudes rather than the whole story! - Anonymous

I can see why you wouldn't want to have to read stories to learn a new concept. However there is a variety of learning styles. Not all people can grasp a concept unless given examples, often anecdotal, that illustrate those concepts. Reading stories that illustrate concepts in different ways, also reinforces learning, and helps some people to learn more deeply and better retain information. - Terence Wight 14:12, 2 May 2011 (UTC-5)