Talk:Russian/Verbal Aspect

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The verbs быть and жить seem to have aspectual pairs. Быть-пробыть, жить-прожить. The article says they don't. Need more explanation about that.

First, thanks to the unknown author for this article about the verbs of my mother language. I have a minor comment about the Verbal "Pairs". Not a great deal, but the author may wish to clarify the second para in same "Pairs". The thing is that the perfective verb разговорить does NOT mean "to converse" or "to chat". It means to complete encouraging, making or even forcing somebody else to speak. For example: A teacher may разговорить a shy student (so that the student would give a complete and exhausting answer). A private eye   or a policemen under cover may разговорить a witness or neighbours (so as to get some useful information through conversing  or just chatting). An executor may разговорить a suspect by torturing. Hence, I think that the pair говорить - (раз)говорить is a bit misleading. Possibly, another pair думать-подумать would better fit into the subject para. Думать means "to think", подумать means "to give some thought". Sorry about interfering and excuse my English. Sincerely, Taurox -The-Native-Russian-Speaker  :)

Confusing example
A fragment of the article promises an example of perfective and imperfective verbs formed by adding a prefix to the opposite element in the pair. However they provide three examples in which the verbs in both aspects either have the exact same beginning, or have no resemblance to one another. The author either does not understand what the meaning of prefix is or they chose to provide examples that do not involve prefixes despite introducing them as such.

The fragment in question:

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So we have three pairs derived using prefixes:

говорить (impf.) and сказать (pf.)

отговаривать (impf.) and отговорить (pf.)

договариваться (impf.) and договориться (pf.)

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This didn't help me at all to understand how to modify verbs to introduce aspect. I'm now more confused than I was before reading the article.