Talk:Relationships/Couples

"Males court. Females choose. This works for most of the animal world, in which fathers have little or no involvement in their offspring.

But women need long-term relationships. Switching from dating to a committed relationship requires switching gender roles. Men must choose whether to stay in a relationship. Women must continually court their mates to stay committed."

In my opinion these two paragraphs have false implications. They appear to imply that men do not court, and that Women do not have a choice, but are prone to their male counterpoints choosing. It also does not exhibit that choosing to court is a choice, whether male or female makes no difference. Not only does this appear sexist but it also does not seem to accurately describe human "mating" scenarios on all levels. Also it suggests that men do not need long term relationships, as well as suggesting that all women need long term relationships. This is an erroneous assumption. As I have heard and read, many women prefer to remain single and love it, wheras others would rather have an intimate partner. And the same can be said of men as well. For this reason I have deleted these paragraphs.

--Chad

--Furthermore the overall article seems more tailored toward one particular perspective of relationships as if they all fall into one category.

To prove my point re-observe this statement:

"Women stuck in the passive, choosing gender role don't move from dating into a relationship.

E.g., a woman works hard on her clothes and make-up, to attract men. She read The Rules, so plays "hard to get." She expects a man to work to please her, e.g., give her flowers and gifts and attention. After sex, she wants to be rewarded with more flowers and gifts and attention."

What woman are you refering to? The suggestive title is about "couple-hood" and therefore should tailor to the aspect of that suggestion. This phraseology is merely indicitative of a particular type of women, yet I must reiterate not all women fit into this category. In fact both partners may have unmet expectations, yet the expectations vary from individual to individual.
 * I think we have to consider when this book was written, and who wrote it. If the author is an adherent of a traditional, heterosexual and monogamous relationship or marriage then the book is going to reflect those beliefs. Likewise, if the author identifies as gender queer, or 'gay', then they will have a different perspective and concentrate on describing relationships from an alternate perspective. I suggest if this book is truly going to reflect the world we live in, it needs to have additional content to address LGBT relationships. I suggest for the time being the book is re-titled 'Heterosexual Relationships/Couples' Kerojack (discuss • contribs) 01:55, 12 December 2011 (UTC)

This is | copyrighted material. I think it probably needs to be removed. Andy.somerville (talk) 19:47, 20 September 2009 (UTC)
 * The passage quoted, and flagged as "copyright", is from the original author's own book. That is to say, the author has quoted something he wrote in his book in the wikibook. Since copyright resides with the original author unless sold or donated, he gets to quote from his own book.I think it can stay.Kerojack (discuss • contribs) 01:42, 12 December 2011 (UTC)