Talk:Perspectives in Digital Culture/Digital Labour and Social Media

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Just want to say I think we did a really good job and I've actually enjoyed this, good job team <3Jackylumberjack (discuss • contribs) 18:27, 6 March 2015 (UTC)

Managed to add a brief but important section on the definition participatory culture with seconds to spare! Also some of my team and I managed to enter a wikichat room earlier today and ask about embedding pictures as we were clearly doing something very wrong! According to the users in the chat 2 Italians had "monoplised" the chat and since we don't speak Italian, well, it didn't go down too well! Nevertheless it was interesting and we will know where to go for help next time (if control has returned to the English-speaking by then) :D (Courtneyorr (discuss • contribs) 17:09, 6 March 2015 (UTC))

Just on a final note. I think the book looks really good. It covers a wide variety of interesting arguments and topics and the engagement on the discussion page has been really helpful. Great job team. Mich.henderson (discuss • contribs) 16:53, 6 March 2015 (UTC)

This is not a huge dilemma I realize that but I have attempted to add images onto content, however from some reason it wont allow me to. I went to the reading room as suggested and I read the relevant section on how it has to be done but when I actually go to attempt it, for some reason it won't allow me to upload files. Apologies for not being able to do this, but I realize that several images have been put up within the sections regarding "Surveillance" so thanks for doing that. Just can't get my head around that part what so ever. Mich.henderson (discuss • contribs) 16:37, 6 March 2015 (UTC)

Ok im going to remove the 'audience engagement' heading but feel free to add it back in if anyone is intending to add information to it as it was blank. It was right underneath 'alternative funding'. Annablack94 (discuss • contribs) 15:41, 6 March 2015 (UTC)
 * It was me, I was in the midst of writing something but I had a class to go to. That's fine, I'll see if I can get it finished in time for 5pm. Y2Scott (discuss • contribs) 16:20, 6 March 2015 (UTC)

Guys the audience engagement heading has no content in it. I have to go to a class now but should i delete the heading? Or is someone adding to it. Annablack94 (discuss • contribs) 15:36, 6 March 2015 (UTC)

Can anyone advise me on how they mastered embedding photos? Every time I try it's just a blank box that comes up! (Courtneyorr (discuss • contribs) 13:02, 6 March 2015 (UTC))

Hi, I've just noticed someone has deleted some of my work on the main page. Does anyone know if this will matter when it comes to my final grade? No one had mentioned taking it out on this discussion page so I'm just a little worried now. Clg00025 (discuss • contribs) 12:31, 6 March 2015 (UTC)
 * What section was it removed from? If you are unhappy with it you could try going through the edits/changes previews and find out who deleted it and if they wrote a summary as to why they did! I'm pretty sure Greg will still acknowledge it as a contribution though don't worry.(Courtneyorr (discuss • contribs) 13:02, 6 March 2015 (UTC))
 * Oh I didn't realise you could work out who changed it/why, would you be able to tell me how to get there? I don't mind if there was a reason for it, I'm just worried about the individual marking now because I did contribute to it, it's just gone now if that makes sense! Clg00025 (discuss • contribs) 13:46, 6 March 2015 (UTC)


 * I've worked it out, thanks! It doesn't say why it was taken out but it still shows my contribution so it should be ok. Thanks for your help Courtneyorr Clg00025 (discuss • contribs) 13:52, 6 March 2015 (UTC)

Well I think we could definitely have more in the citizen journalism section. I was looking at the Web as Public/Private space chapter and they have a much more padded out section on citizen journalism, so maybe you could see if there's stuff there that could be developed further? Danvevers (discuss • contribs) 12:24, 6 March 2015 (UTC)
 * That's fine, I'll add some more now. Y2Scott (discuss • contribs) 12:28, 6 March 2015 (UTC)


 * I've added some things into citizen journalism too, I hope it's ok. I also added some information into Arab Spring section as there were only a few sentences on it. In doing this, some information was moved about so that it all made sense together, is that ok? It's all still there, just moved slightly. Clg00025 (discuss • contribs) 16:36, 6 March 2015 (UTC)

Sorry Craigpaton27 and Danvevers I didn't realize you already had something on citizen journalism. Is there anything else needing added? Y2Scott (discuss • contribs) 12:14, 6 March 2015 (UTC)

I'm going to add a section about terrorism and social media which I think would link quite well! I was thinking of putting it underneath "Advertising on Social Media" - feel free to add any info! Wearsonlyblack (discuss • contribs) 02:49, 6 March 2015 (UTC)

Craigpaton27 Saw your citizen journalism bit and kinda leapt on it with some stuff about crowdfunding, hope that's cool! Danvevers (discuss • contribs) 02:04, 6 March 2015 (UTC)

Hi Everyone! I'm just adding some photos to some places, hope you don't mind! If you do mind, feel free to remove it from your section. Also, I know it isn't the most fun photos, but due to copyright issues these are the ones that are free content supplied by other wikipages which makes the process of referencing so much easier. --Josdah93 (discuss • contribs) 00:19, 6 March 2015 (UTC)

Is there any more sections/topics anyone can think of that would be good to add? I'm thinking of covering participatory culture but not sure how relevant it is compared to the other sections. I can do a big all round spelling/grammar/punctuation thing if you like - this is due in at midday right? Danvevers (discuss • contribs) 23:08, 5 March 2015 (UTC)
 * It's due 5pm i'm sure... yeah you could have a browse but I wouldn't change much of the content since it's other peoples work and we are getting marked independently remember :-) (Courtneyorr (discuss • contribs) 23:42, 5 March 2015 (UTC))

Yeah I'll just give it a once-over for anything silly like typos, punctuation etc...sure most of it's fine! Danvevers (discuss • contribs) 23:48, 5 March 2015 (UTC)

I am guessing that people are checking for spellings, grammar and punctuation before we have to had it in tomorrow? Hopkinson25

I realise that within my content I did not have references, however I was shown today how to do this. I noticed that someone had already put some of my references in for me so thank you for that and in tying up loose ends, I have just updated the ones which were yet needing referenced. Sorry for not doing this sooner. Mich.henderson (discuss • contribs) 21:23, 5 March 2015 (UTC)

Would it make sense to move the section Concepts of Labour to the beginning rather than explaining digital labour/free labour/youtube etc before actually mentioning labour itself? Clg00025 (discuss • contribs) 20:41, 5 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Yeah I think it should go first, if anything? Jackylumberjack (discuss • contribs) 21:02, 5 March 2015 (UTC)
 * I agree but personally I would place it under the introduction. That way you have a general overview of Digital Labour and following on from that, a look at Labour itself. Mich.henderson (discuss • contribs) 21:19, 5 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Good idea! Think that will clear up that section quite a bit and make it easier to understand! --Josdah93 (discuss • contribs) 21:25, 5 March 2015 (UTC)
 * I think it will as well. Well done for noticing that. Mich.henderson (discuss • contribs) 21:33, 5 March 2015 (UTC)


 * So are we going underneath the introduction or underneath digital labour, like just before shift in traditional labour? Clg00025 (discuss • contribs) 23:09, 5 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Just changed it to after the introduction, underneath the digital labour part. I think that makes sense now, if not feel free to edit away! Clg00025 (discuss • contribs) 23:16, 5 March 2015 (UTC)

Not too important but just for prettiness sake, I think it'd be a good idea to add pictures wherever necessary just to make the whole thing look better! Maybe people could find pictures they think goes with the parts they've written? Jackylumberjack (discuss • contribs) 20:24, 5 March 2015 (UTC)
 * I was just about to do this, although, I am not 100% on how you go about adding images. I will give it a bash and see what happens. Mich.henderson (discuss • contribs) 21:37, 5 March 2015 (UTC)

I will add an image to the Twitch section I wrote. 92.22.44.7 (discuss) 21:37, 5 March 2015 (UTC)
 * I have had a look but I am unsure how to add images. Can someone give me some tips on how to go about this? Thanks Mich.henderson (discuss • contribs) 22:21, 5 March 2015 (UTC)

Mich.henderson if you go to the reading room under General Assistance, theres advice on adding pictures there LittleMermaid95 (discuss • contribs) 00:39, 6 March 2015 (UTC)
 * That's greatLittleMermaid95 thank you. I will take a look at that and see if I can add some images to various sections. Mich.henderson (discuss • contribs) 16:01, 6 March 2015 (UTC)

I have just added a bit to free labour to do with Wikipedia and open software Hopkinson25
 * Good Job! You think it would be relevant to talk about free software and how that makes it possible for people to do more free digital labour.. if that makes sense? --Josdah93 (discuss • contribs) 21:27, 5 March 2015 (UTC)

Thinking about adding some individual case studies for each social media site to emphasise the power of it as a tool, not sure however I could find one for each or just add to the main sites, any thoughts on this? --LewisMcKenzie51 (discuss • contribs) 14:48, 5 March 2015 (UTC)
 * On the section on 'Rise of Social Media', I've seen that there's already a couple of small examples on Facebook and Twitter, so if you feel like you want to add any more case studies I think there would probably be a good place to start. But completely up to you where you think it would suit best! Amg00020 (discuss • contribs) 16:13, 5 March 2015 (UTC)

I'm going to write up something on Citizen Journalism today and it should be up in the next hour or so! Craigpaton27 (discuss • contribs) 12:01, 5 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Think that is such a good point to add!! Citizen Journalism is one of the more important aspects of free digital labour! And maybe you can touch upon the way that the BBC(for example) has due to the increasing amount citizen journalism open up to a much more open discussion forum to aid citizen contribution and involvement, and to be able to compete with a live twitter feed or what not.. --Josdah93 (discuss • contribs) 21:31, 5 March 2015 (UTC)

No one has contributed to the Glossary section at the bottom of the page and I fear it might be forgotten about, but I've added one or two words/phrases, and in the handbook it says this section should ideally be covered. If anyone feels like there are any important key terms that should be highlighted or added to this section then please go ahead and go for it! Amg00020 (discuss • contribs) 22:51, 4 March 2015 (UTC)
 * I added one in last night but I'm going to have a look through the page now and see what else could be included! Clg00025 (discuss • contribs) 12:35, 5 March 2015 (UTC)

Annablack94Thank you. I think 'Issues with Surveillance' would be a great addition, in regards to the overview of Surveillance and its effects on modern society. Mich.henderson (discuss • contribs) 19:23, 4 March 2015 (UTC)

Did a small edit on the intro, a few bits here and there, let me know whoever contributed to it that it's still ok! Eg there was the line "almost crucial and largely imperative", but I changed it to "near-crucial" because imperative and crucial have really similar meanings! Danvevers (discuss • contribs) 18:28, 4 March 2015 (UTC)

With regards to more theoretical stuff on digital labour, I've been researching it from a Marxist perspective and should have something up pretty soon. Gonna put it under the Ideological Perspectives on Digital Labour heading - unless you reckon I should start a new one? Also, does anyone else want to find some more theorists on digital labour? Danvevers (discuss • contribs) 18:12, 4 March 2015 (UTC)

I think someone has been trying to tidy up the page but has removed some sections I added and haven't added to yet so please can no one remove any more headings until Friday! As I wrote below it was a heading for us to focus more on the key term digital labour as Greg commented we still have some more info to discuss surrounding that. (Courtneyorr (discuss • contribs) 15:52, 4 March 2015 (UTC))

I've added a little correction to the YouTube section regarding the way the pay users for their monetized videos. Anyone clued up on the new subscription service? Might be able to add a little about that also --Michaelpa95 (discuss • contribs) 14:13, 4 March 2015 (UTC)

Mich.henderson Looks good, I was thinking of adding a section 'Issues with Surveillance' or something along those lines to show the negative implications of being watched constantly in terms of citizen privacy etc. Is that alright with everyone before I go ahead/anyone have any thoughts on it? Annablack94 (discuss • contribs) 23:22, 3 March 2015 (UTC)

I have added additional information to "Government Surveillance" and have edited the final sentence in the section "Surveillance". I have noticed that "Surveillance" and "New Surveillance" has a small amount of information so I am going to have a look over these again and see what can be added. Mich.henderson (discuss • contribs) 22:27, 3 March 2015 (UTC)

I added a couple of words to the last part of the "Digital Labour and Youtube" section because I thought it flowed a little better but if I have picked the sentence up wrong and my addition doesn't fit to what is being discussed let me know LittleMermaid95 (discuss • contribs) 17:04, 3 March 2015 (UTC) I also added some logos next to the social media platforms I'm hoping to do them all once i figure out how to   does anyone not like the pictures? i thought they looked nice and helped highlight those sections but i don't mind taking them down LittleMermaid95 (discuss • contribs) 20:53, 3 March 2015 (UTC)


 * I think the logos make the page look a bit better so personally think we should keep them! Clg00025 (discuss • contribs) 22:34, 3 March 2015 (UTC)
 * I think 100% we should keep the logos, it makes it look more like a proper Wiki page and makes the chunks of text seem more professional and stand out. It's a simple way to make the chapter appear more 'finished' and tidy I think! Amg00020 (discuss • contribs) 01:09, 4 March 2015 (UTC)

Social Butterflies, are moving forward with the focus of contributing mainly to The history and rise to social media, Digital media and YouTube, the powers of each site and possible case studies. Also adding to the existing inputs of free labour. --LewisMcKenzie51 (discuss • contribs) 12:02, 3 March 2015 (UTC)

I had a read over the section Government Surveillance and it sounding really good. I have added some additional information tonight, regarding the laws of this form of Surveillance within the USA, however, I have found a couple of great resources which have broken down the development and evolving laws passed following 9/11. I will have a read over these and add this information in tomorrow. A well as this, Ihave some more details relating to Surveillance in general and I will incorporate this in the appropriate areas tomorrow also. Mich.henderson (discuss • contribs) 22:13, 2 March 2015 (UTC)

I created a sub-subsection under types of social media for Tinder. I tried to link it to the Wikipedia page but couldn't get it to work. If someone knows how to do that and also if anyone wants to add more info that would be great. Y2Scott (discuss • contribs) 20:37, 2 March 2015 (UTC)

I created a subsection and temporary heading called "Definitions/history/approaches/debates surrounding digital labour" to spark ideas about Labour. (Courtneyorr (discuss • contribs) 18:58, 2 March 2015 (UTC))

'''Good work so far teams. One thought - labour - isn't that a key word here? In which case, there's probably a whole history about to be unearthed of rich material and scholarly debate that you've just not tapped yet. What does labour mean and what are the implications for your critical engagement with the topic?''' GregXenon01 (discuss • contribs) 16:47, 2 March 2015 (UTC)

QUESTION! I've been wanting to write about Let's Plays in relation to digital labour as part of a YouTube section but I'm now thinking it would make sense as its own section now? What do you think? Where could we put it? Or do you think we should forget about it? Wanted to get your opinions before going ahead and writing this up. I will check back tomorrow for you responses and then get to work depending on the decision. Kevinodonnell91 (discuss • contribs) 14:45, 2 March 2015 (UTC)
 * I think it should be a subsection to the 'Digital Labour and Youtube' section? So, the actual section can be about how people on YouTube earn a living through YouTube and whatnot, then 'Let's Play' can be a subsection of that as an example? It depends how much you think you can write about it. You could have a subsection for 'Lets Play', 'Vlogging', 'Review channels' etc. What do we think of that? Jackylumberjack (discuss • contribs) 15:41, 2 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the feedback Jacky, I'm uploading my Let's Play section now.

Guys, I'm going to add a section on Twitch.tv under types of social media as it's becoming the forefront of the Let's Play movement -- a prominent form of digital labour. Going to type it up just now so you'll be able to see it soon and let me know what you think? UPDATE: Section added, including references. Kevinodonnell91 (discuss • contribs) 14:10, 2 March 2015 (UTC)

We could possibly go down the route of adding a few prominent case studies. I think more detail would be a good idea. I certainly think that there is a lot more that we can go into when it comes to sites such as twitter and youtube. JamesHGardner (discuss • contribs) 12:10, 2 March 2015 (UTC)

Ah just realised there is already a section covering social media as a whole, however does anyone think it would be good to go in to detail of each site or leave it broad? --LewisMcKenzie51 (discuss • contribs) 11:51, 2 March 2015 (UTC)
 * LewisMcKenzie51 Probably leave it broad? Could be wrong but I'd say that was more appropriate for a wikipage solely about the platform... we could create a section and talk about general criticism/ different approaches to social media or just create sections covering the main problems, for example 'privacy issues' and we already have surveillance. (Courtneyorr (discuss • contribs) 15:33, 2 March 2015 (UTC))

Just an open question, our group talked about adding information about the pros and cons of each social media site, does everyone think its a good idea to add a sub section to introduce this or just add it in as part of the existing sections for each site? --LewisMcKenzie51 (discuss • contribs) 11:39, 2 March 2015 (UTC)
 * I think the Social media pro/con section is really relevant and helpful, seeing as they're numbered and easy to read, which helps to break up the chunks of text! This section also stands out and is easy to find, which will be useful for people who may be quickly searching for a simple answer/ different point of views on social media. I think if you were to add positive/negatives to each of the social media platforms would be too messy and would be harder to read as opposed to how you've lain it out now in a numbered list! Good job --Amg00020 (discuss • contribs) 17:07, 2 March 2015 (UTC)

Also maybe it would brighten it up a bit to add some photos along side the text, thoughts? Annablack94 (discuss • contribs) 23:52, 1 March 2015 (UTC)


 * Annablack94 I tried to add in some photos of the different social media logos, but ran into some copyright issues, even though I sited my sources and got them from free graphics sites. My conclusion was that it's a pain in the butt to add photos. But if you have a better way of getting photos in here I say go for it! I think the page could use some brightening! --CharRAWRlessenger (discuss • contribs) 00:56, 2 March 2015 (UTC)

I'm not sure who started working on government surveillance but i noticed there was only 1 or 2 sentences in that section so i've started adding more and was planning on adding more in depth tomorrow. I hope that's okay? Let me know if anyone's working on this already and would rather i didn't contribute to that section Annablack94 (discuss • contribs) 23:41, 1 March 2015 (UTC)

Okay I put in a wee more into the introduction, feel free to feedback and change what you think needs changing! I wasn't 100% on the digital labour, so you may want to check it over. It also might be an idea to add a couple of sentences at the beginning of every main subsection just with key definitions, a little intro into it and whatnot? Jackylumberjack (discuss • contribs) 23:56, 28 February 2015 (UTC)

Hey guys! I just wanted to point out that we really need to reference our resources on the information we put out there. For example, there are none for the YouTube, Yik Yak and Vine sections. I'm not trying to get on anyone's case by no means :) but I just wanna put it out there that it's very important to site our information :) --CharRAWRlessenger (discuss • contribs) 22:29, 28 February 2015 (UTC)
 * If I could like this I totally would, yessss please. I've tried going through and adding references for little things you can find on wikipedia or youtube/facebook "about" pages but for the really specific information we don't know where you've found it. It's so much easier to reference as you go along! :)Jackylumberjack (discuss • contribs) 22:38, 28 February 2015 (UTC)
 * Like! Like! Like! --CharRAWRlessenger (discuss • contribs) 22:58, 28 February 2015 (UTC)

I am going to start looking at Government Surveillance and was wondering if it would be worth adding additional information about this type of surveillance, not only from a UK point of view but across other nations. What do you think? Mich.henderson (discuss • contribs) 19:52, 28 February 2015 (UTC)
 * I think definitely just to demonstrate the extent some government's go to like (I mean I'm not overly clued up on it) but places like China and their cencorship and surveillance and stuff? Also I'd briefly mention as an example or something about David Cameron wanting to ban apps like Snapchat because they can't monitor them and what the reasons are for that. But it's entirely up to you! Jackylumberjack (discuss • contribs) 20:14, 28 February 2015 (UTC)
 * Tonight I added a couple of sentences into this section, but it definitely is not even close to being finished and needs to be added to (please feel free to add what you like or edit/ delete anything I've written that you feel isn't relevant!). I felt like I should get something written down as it's one of the sections of the chapter that was still bare, just to get things started for that section. --Amg00020 (discuss • contribs) 20:47, 28 February 2015 (UTC)

After looking at the section you referenced below, I can see what you mean. I think changing it would be a good idea, as it would make the layout consistent, but also give readers an insight into specific areas that will be covered. Mich.henderson (discuss • contribs) 19:40, 28 February 2015 (UTC)
 * Okay well I'll fill it with something but anyone should add what they feel right! Also I won't delete what's there at the minute, we can move it somewhere else at some point.Jackylumberjack (discuss • contribs) 20:14, 28 February 2015 (UTC)

I'm not sure about the current Introduction like it only discusses Digital Labour, and doesn't really introduce the project as a whole. Should we maybe move the current text in it to under the 'Digital Labour' section as a "What is Digital Labour?" kind of heading and then use the introduction to introduce what the wikibook is, what it'll be discussing etc? Jackylumberjack (discuss • contribs) 19:08, 28 February 2015 (UTC)

I just put my bit in 'Always-On Culture', if anyone is interested in that and wants to add/amend, let me know what you think. Jackylumberjack (discuss • contribs) 17:54, 28 February 2015 (UTC)

Mich.henderson Just had a read through it and it's sounding good. Thanks for letting me join, I'll try add some of my ideas over the next few days. Clg00025 (discuss • contribs) 15:05, 28 February 2015 (UTC)

Clg00025 I understand I have not posted anything up within the section 'The Rise of Social Media' but I have just finished writing up my content. If you feel I have missed any important topics out then please feel free to edit and add your own bits to it. More than happy to see what other aspects others can come up with and add to make this a great section. Mich.henderson (discuss • contribs) 22:47, 27 February 2015 (UTC)

I'm not sure who mentioned they were going to write about the rise of social media but would they mind if I joined and wrote some stuff? It's just because I've done stuff on digital labour but haven't done anything on the social media side of things yet. I also noticed nothing has been written in that section yet, so if your struggling at all I'm happy to try help! Clg00025 (discuss • contribs) 16:48, 27 February 2015 (UTC)

Hello! What do you guys think about moving the digital labour and youtube section to under the Social media; Youtube; tab? I was thinking that would be good since it is weird that the definition of youtube comes after the analysis.. But Im not sure, because then it wouldn't be under the digital labour heading.. What do you guys think? --Josdah93 (discuss • contribs) 11:25, 27 February 2015 (UTC)
 * Its an odd one because it does come under both. I would possibly suggest that it would fit better in the social media section as we can maybe add more information in if that was the case. As you say it may also be easier to have the analysis with the description. My group, social butterflies, was planning on adding additional critique of social media, so it would fit in, as one of our main areas of focus so that may be a good way to bring together the digital labour and social media sections. JamesHGardner (discuss • contribs) 14:37, 27 February 2015 (UTC)
 * Personally I think the Social media;Youtube section has enough information already, and it'll be easier to keep them separate because then the information on the Digital Labour part of the Youtube paragraph won't get lost if it's still under the heading Digital Labour, which I think flows quite well. Just because they're giving information on the same topic doesn't mean they should be put together provided the information is split relevantly into digital labour/ social media, if that makes sense. But it depends on what everyone else thinks will work better overall, I'm not too fussed! --Amg00020 (discuss • contribs) 19:10, 28 February 2015 (UTC)


 * Amg00020 I do see what you are coming from. I agree that maybe it will be better to keep it as it is, to distinguish between the two. I'm just worried that we are separating digital labour and social media too much, instead of seeing it as digital media & social media as a join subject since they are interlinked.. But maybe we cover that in the media convergence section. --Josdah93 (discuss • contribs) 22:51, 28 February 2015 (UTC)

I don't think it really maters either the way, the point about making sure that we interlink the topic is important. Perhaps we leave it where it is but also look at it from a slightly different angle in the social media section. That way we can look at it from both angles keeping them succinct but also connected. JamesHGardner (discuss • contribs) 21:53, 1 March 2015 (UTC)

Yeah, I just added quite a lot to the media convergence section but didnt realise there was a 'rise of media convergence' section as well. I think the two should combine. I can join then if you want. I was thinking more just using the heading 'media convergence' though, rather than 'the rise of'. 'The rise of social media' section works better cause there's a 'history of social media' section too, and social media is a much deeper concept, but i don't think it's necessary for the media convergence bit. Let me know though? So i can fix it if people agree. Annablack94 (discuss • contribs) 23:16, 26 February 2015 (UTC) Jackylumberjack


 * Annablack95 Yeah that makes sense! I only called it that because it was consistent with 'The Rise of Social Media' and it is a fairly recent concept to social media, but if we're putting it all together that makes sense. I would include though how it sort of did rise into social media though, like it's a fairly recent development if you think that's cool :) Although I am thinking that Media Convergence isn't always in relation to social media... so I don't know how we want to tackle that. Maybe call it 'Media Convergence in Social Media'?Jackylumberjack (discuss • contribs) 23:23, 26 February 2015 (UTC)

No worries! Yeah that's what I was thinking, cause the stuff I've written about isn't just about social media its about using different devices and the inter-connectivity of different devices then I went on to talk about social media convergence. I could call it 'media convergence and social media'? So it's kinda of more relevant to both things i've spoken about. I wasn't sure about putting it right under the rise of social media section because there's other topics after that one more directly linked to just social media than the convergence one.. I could put it under 'most successful social media platforms'. I'm not sure though, cause it's quite a big topic. What do you think? Jackylumberjack

CharRAWRlessenger I see your point but my idea was kind of like the Main Concepts section had like a really brief definition of the main points we were discussing like Digital Labour, Social Media, Media Convergence, Always-On Culture etcetc and then in the main bulk of the book is where we fleshed them out and actually discussed them and the theories and readings around them and whatnot. But that's just me! ALSO, I'm not sure about 1.2.3 Media Convergence as a section, especially AFTER having 'Rise of Media Convergence' it just doesn't really make sense to me, if anything it could all go in the 'Rise of' sub-section? Again, this kind of ties into my point of having the Main Concepts as a quick run-down of the topic definitions. Sorry that was a wee bit of a ramble. Let me know what you's think! :)Jackylumberjack (discuss • contribs) 22:49, 26 February 2015 (UTC)


 * Jackylumberjack I see what you mean. If you'd like to change it back it's no bother to me :) We all have a different way of organizing things. I do believe though that it might be better to just have a little blurb or intro at the beginning of each section, but thats just me. I was really confused with the way we had it before. Or maybe we could put the intro content to each section in the introduction itself and just break it down? What do you think about that idea? As far as the Media Convergence as a section goes, I agree with you. It should go under to rise of media convergence. Thanks for your input! I appreciate it! --CharRAWRlessenger (discuss • contribs) 22:19, 28 February 2015 (UTC)
 * CharRAWRlessenger I'm pretty happy with how it's looking now section wise, are you? :) I really love your idea of a wee intro to each section, it doesn't necessarily need a heading or anything just a little bit before the subsections that have key definitions and a summary of what is about to be discussed? I can help you out with that if you want!Jackylumberjack (discuss • contribs) 22:38, 28 February 2015 (UTC)
 * Jackylumberjack I agree, I do like how the sections look now. A bit more tidy'd up. As far as the intro's go to each section, I don't know if I will get to those before the deadline as my group is focusing on the pro's and con's of social media and media convergence with each main social media outlet. As far as I can see, there is a small intro already there for each section. I think I'm just going to leave it up to another person to do if he/she would like as I already have quite a bit on my plate to work on. Thank you for the offer though! --CharRAWRlessenger (discuss • contribs) 20:55, 1 March 2015 (UTC)

Its not really about making it look nicer, its about making it more organized and easier to read, thats all. :) --CharRAWRlessenger (discuss • contribs) 17:46, 26 February 2015 (UTC)

How much of a grade is just changing everything to make the page look nicer worth? I mean compared to actually contributing. TaylorMPWinger (discuss • contribs) 17:00, 26 February 2015 (UTC)

Links that look like this look better than links that look like this. TaylorMPWinger (discuss • contribs) 16:48, 26 February 2015 (UTC)

CharRAWRlessenger I agree, I'm finding it a little confusing myself to be honest! I would be happy for you to edit the structure so we aren't almost repeating ourselves. Obviously it will be the same information but I feel the structure is just a little confusing at the minute as well. Clg00025 (discuss • contribs) 16:46, 26 February 2015 (UTC)

I feel like were being a bit redundant in our contents section. It might be hard for a reader to understand what were trying to put across because, the organization of it doesn't quite makes sense. What if, instead of having digital labour and social media under main concepts twice, we just put them as a main concept all together? Does that make sense. Having two digital labour and social media topics but not two media convergence and digital peasantry and slavery topics is a little wonky. What do you guys think. Would anyone mind, if I rearranged it to make more sense? I wont delete anything I promise :) --CharRAWRlessenger (discuss • contribs) 16:22, 26 February 2015 (UTC)

Lewis: I'll help ya out on that! Next time our group meets, I can show ya how to as well if you'd like! --CharRAWRlessenger (discuss • contribs) 15:27, 26 February 2015 (UTC)

To hyperlink to other wiki pages, do this words that you want to appear(these will be the words that appear blue and then finish the sentence. The w: part is to link to Wikipedia pages, if it's a wikibooks page, leave it out. TaylorMPWinger (discuss • contribs) 15:52, 26 February 2015 (UTC)

On behalf of my group I've added a bit to the Social media sub-heading and discussed it's darker sides as an introduction also. However I'm finding a bit of trouble hyperlinking to other wiki pages etc, so if someone could amend that It'd be greatly appreciated! --LewisMcKenzie51 (discuss • contribs) 14:50, 26 February 2015 (UTC)

Hey guys, Our group (Social Butterflies) are today focusing on the Social Media sub-section and adding contributions to the pros and cons of the most popular social medias sites. After meeting up, we have got similar understanding and knowledge of the topic, if anyone would like to lend a hand or add to what we've done, give us a shout! --139.153.76.184 (discuss) 13:46, 26 February 2015 (UTC)

Hey guys, I've added a small bit of info under "The Rise of Media Convergence" and I'm currently doing more research to add more to this section. If anyone else wants to add some info as well, feel free! Wearsonlyblack (discuss • contribs) 13:10, 26 February 2015 (UTC)

Should we have a subsection on online participatory culture? Or should we just include it in the different sections, seeing as it is relevant for most social media platforms? --Josdah93 (discuss • contribs) 11:34, 26 February 2015 (UTC)

Thinking about adding some more to the surveillance section but I'm not sure if anyone's already working on it? There's quite a lot of info I've found online that hasn't been included so let me know if it's ok to add to it. I just added the digital marketing section, I'm probably going to add more but was thinking the subheadings under digital labour probably need to be ordered in a way that they flow better? Might just be me but when I look at the subjects they seem a little disjointed. It will probably be easier to sort when they're all filled in though. Annablack94 (discuss • contribs) 07:33, 26 February 2015 (UTC)

Has anyone got a rough idea of the amount of work I need to do to be considered "not coasting". Is there like an approximate word count? TaylorMPWinger (discuss • contribs) 17:16, 25 February 2015 (UTC)

⇒⇒TaylorMPWinger We kind of discussed this in our group meeting to day and came to the conclusion that as long as you contribute meaningfull pieces to the puzzle you should be good. Sine there is no specific word count and the content of your contribution is only weighted 20% I believe that as long as you actually contribute and contribute constructively and not just correct mistakes and do the easy work but actually research and write constructively then you should be good :) but dont quote me on that. Its just a theory haha --CharRAWRlessenger (discuss • contribs) 16:00, 26 February 2015 (UTC)

Kevinodonnell91 you wanted to do the gaming side of youtube as a work right? and i'll be doing the blogger side? --Josdah93 (discuss • contribs) 16:07, 25 February 2015 (UTC)

I realise a few people are doing social media descriptions now but since I posted in one of my first posts a few weeks back I wanted to do it (and started researching) I'm still continuing with researching that! Is there anything else anyone can think of needing desperately covered? I haven't been online this week I had an exam! (Courtneyorr (discuss • contribs) 15:17, 25 February 2015 (UTC))

How do we reference? Have we found out a template? (Courtneyorr (discuss • contribs) 15:04, 25 February 2015 (UTC))

⇒⇒ Courtneyorr In the course booklet it says that we are to use the APA reference system. Not sure if that applies to this project as well though since that information was only given for the essay.--Josdah93 (discuss • contribs) 18:13, 26 February 2015 (UTC)

YouTube/Digital Labor Banter

Kevinodonnell91 & Josdah93Hey guys. I really like your idea of YouTube as a job. However, I kind of disagree that YouTube is the area in which we can expand on digital labor the most. If you think about it, alot of companies these days hire people just to take care of their social media accounts. I was one of them actually. So, wouldn't be posting to facebook, twitter, instagram, pinterest etc. for a company as your job be considered digital labor as well? I get that you can make a lot of money being a "YouTube sensation" like Jenna Marbles, but I really think there is more to it than just YouTube. What do you guys think?

⇒⇒⇒I do get what you mean, however, i wanted to talk about the way that being a "youtuber" is an actual job, and not talk about the "youtube sensations", but instead focus on daily vloggers. I also wanted to touch upon the way that these people use different social platforms as a way to connect with their fans and to create a very special liveness and interactivity. These vloggers need to be visible and "touchable" on for example twitter, even though it isn't part of their "job". And to answer the fact there is more to it than youtube, yes of course there is. But we just chose to focus on that part, leaving space for other people to cover other questions, such as working for a company and handling their social media outlets. --Josdah93 (discuss • contribs) 17:55, 26 February 2015 (UTC)

⇒⇒Awesome idea! Thanks for the clarification. --CharRAWRlessenger (discuss • contribs) 19:49, 26 February 2015 (UTC)

I agree with Josdah. Youtube is probably the area where we can expand upon digital labour the most. I've found an essay I want to reference in regards to Youtube and Let's Plays which I feel would fit in this section and will hopefully be able to post in up in next few days to see what you all think. Kevinodonnell91 (discuss • contribs) 14:55, 25 February 2015 (UTC)

Heey! I just wanted to join in on the Digital labour and Youtube, and if we should keep that section! I think we should keep it, because there is a big difference between digital labour and social media, and i think that it is important to look at youtube as an actual job, and then youtube as a social media platform.. If that makes any sense? I have found a few good articles for this. So I'll try to add some content to both sections! --Josdah93 (discuss • contribs) 12:59, 25 February 2015 (UTC)

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Reminder: You have to put double brackets around links and you should also check that the people mentioned actually have Wikipedia pages (although most people do so it's fine). TaylorMPWinger (discuss • contribs) 11:04, 25 February 2015 (UTC)

Hey guys! I found this page Help:Editing that gives some useful information about editing. I found it quite useful and hope that everyone does as well! Wearsonlyblack (discuss • contribs) 21:17, 24 February 2015 (UTC)
 * Thanks for bringing this up! I was having a few small problems but after clicking on the Help section it seems so obvious now! Amg00020 (discuss • contribs) 13:32, 25 February 2015 (UTC)

I noticed that some of the headings aren't consistent in style and layout and I was going to just go through and tidy them up a bit, if everyone didn't mind? If I change anything wrong I apologise, feel free to correct me! Jackylumberjack (discuss • contribs) 17:06, 24 February 2015 (UTC)

After our brief discussion the other day, regarding the layout of the first section,I have edited and changed the subject area 'The Rise of Social Media' to a sub heading. Jackylumberjack I think a section relating to 'Always-on Culture' would be a great area to cover, particularly because it is relevant and up-to-date with today's generation. I think this section would either go as a sub heading after 'The Rise of Social Media' or in the area you suggested below. Both areas are covered under this topic so either would be an appropriate place. Hope this helps. Mich.henderson (discuss • contribs) 16:12, 24 February 2015 (UTC)
 * Amazing Mich.henderson, I'll get right on that. Thanks for the help! What do we think also to a subsection on 'media convergence' or 'The Rise of Media Convergence' given how all social media platforms are now all interconnected and you can share posts between them whereas before they'd have been pretty separated? It'd probably tie in well after 'The Rise of Social Media' subsection. Or do we think it's kind of irrelevant? Jackylumberjack (discuss • contribs) 16:19, 24 February 2015 (UTC)


 * No problem. I think because Social Media has become such a dominant tool within society, Media Convergence is a prime concept and should be apart of this wikibook. With this in mind, I think this section would be a perfect fit after 'The Rise in Social Media'. Also, in relation to your idea of incorporating 'The Rise of Media Convergence' I think there would be a wasted opportunity if we didn't add this section in, as it ties in nicely with the position in where it would be placed on the page but also has a large base with regards to its relevance to society as we know it. Mich.henderson (discuss • contribs) 16:38, 24 February 2015 (UTC)
 * Thank you! I think Media Convergence should be mentioned in the 'Main Concepts' section just with a definition, and then further discussed in 'The Rise of Media Convergence'. I'll put the sub-headings there to open it up!Jackylumberjack (discuss • contribs) 16:55, 24 February 2015 (UTC)

I'm going to go through and add to all the Social Media descriptions if that's cool! Feel free to add/edit what I do. Also, I was thinking of doing a section on 'always-on culture' and how it relates to social media, with constantly receiving notifications and whatnot-- where do we think that would go? I was thinking a sub-section of social media, like inbetween most successful platforms and suveillance because it kind of links into surveillance? Thoughts plz! Jackylumberjack (discuss • contribs) 15:09, 24 February 2015 (UTC)

I added a new subheading under Digital Labour centered around advertising and I'm going to start adding info to it. Advertising is the backbone of social media platforms in terms of how they fund their existence so I think it's fitting. Also so many people are now funding their own businesses etc through advertising in the digital world, which is obviously aided by cookies, lack of user privacy, and so on. I know there's other topics for surveillance so i'll keep that in mind when I bring it in to advertising and how it works- and vise versa adverting might need to be brought into the surveillance topic as it is one of the main reasons for lack of privacy. This might be a big topic so I may need to add subheadings within the topic itself but I'll see how it goes. I've started some research with some books I've found. If anyone has any thoughts please let me know, and of course you can add to it if you want to. Annablack94 (discuss • contribs) 02:11, 24 February 2015 (UTC)

Mich.henderson, TaylorMPWinger Yeah sounds good, think that makes most sense. Clg00025 (discuss • contribs) 18:07, 23 February 2015 (UTC)

TaylorMPWinger, Clg00025 I was actually thinking the same thing the other day, as the history is based around its significance and how I came to be. Maybe we should just have one overall section named 'History' and that way within that area we can outline its rise in use and dominance? Mich.henderson (discuss • contribs) 15:24, 23 February 2015 (UTC)

TaylorMPWinger Ahh good point on the digital labour and youtube part! Sorry about that, I put it in without thinking of the other section that was already there, oops! I think the history and rise of social media sound very similar too, so could be one section but I was just wondering why they wouldn't be relevant? Clg00025 (discuss • contribs) 14:33, 23 February 2015 (UTC)

Suggestions: 1. Is the section of 'Digital Labour and YouTube' necessary since there is a subsection on YouTube lower down the page? 2. Are the sections on the history/rise of social media relevant (and basically the same thing)? 3. Do we really need to have subsections for social media outlets that haven't been written about academically since it will be very difficult to fill those sections up? TaylorMPWinger (discuss • contribs) 13:32, 23 February 2015 (UTC)

I have uploaded a section covering Surveillance, as well as an additional area looking into the more contemporary method today of Social Surveillance. I found these areas very dominant within my reading and thought they would add a deeper insight into this particular subject area. I am currently still looking into both Government Surveillance and the Rise of Social Media and will have these two areas up soon. Mich.henderson (discuss • contribs) 21:13, 22 February 2015 (UTC)

If anyone decides against the topic they mentioned in the discussion previously then feel free to delete the topic from the book! Or if you let us know on this page, I'm sure someone else will be willing to help with that topic Clg00025 (discuss • contribs) 13:50, 22 February 2015 (UTC)

I was thinking of adding some headings on the book so that we can make sure we're focusing both on digital labour and social media because it seems like a lot of people are researching social media at the minute. Please feel free to edit my headings/add in your own if I forget some (or if I do it wrong...) Clg00025 (discuss • contribs) 13:33, 22 February 2015 (UTC)

I think Vine would be a great additon as well!! If anyone wants to help out with the social media descriptions it would be much appreciated :) I'm not quite sure if this is what everyone wanted but I figured its better to just hit the ground running. --CharRAWRlessenger (discuss • contribs) 21:05, 21 February 2015 (UTC)

If he is reading this, I just want the tutor to know that I'm really enjoying this project. TaylorMPWinger (discuss • contribs) 16:06, 21 February 2015 (UTC)

I would encourage anyone quoting somebody to link their name to their Wikipedia page (if they have one) just to keep it consistent with regular Wikipedia articles. TaylorMPWinger (discuss • contribs) 15:26, 21 February 2015 (UTC)

Hi, I think that DapperLaughs would be great addition to this section and would add a greater insight into this social media platform. Mich.henderson (discuss • contribs) 16:08, 20 February 2015 (UTC)

Hi I was going to do a section on Vine. I was thinking that was how DapperLaughs gained his popularity, and if you like him or not he was a part of social media culture. For a bit anyway... Y2Scott (discuss • contribs) 11:23, 20 February 2015 (UTC)

Hello! Josdah93, I was hoping to collaborate with you on the Youtube section but with particular reference to video games and the 'Let's Play' communities on there? Kevinodonnell91 (discuss • contribs) 10:28, 20 February 2015 (UTC)

Kevinodonnell91 You can take the video game side, and i'll take the blogger side of things? --Josdah93 (discuss • contribs) 12:28, 22 February 2015 (UTC)

Hi everyone! I was wondering if I could write the section on Digital labour and Youtube? --Josdah93 (discuss • contribs) 10:37, 18 February 2015 (UTC)

Hi there! I was wanting to do a little blurb about yik yak and that anonymity of it all as well as maybe little descriptions of different social media sites. Is anyone else doing this or would be opposed to me doing this portion?CharRAWRlessenger (discuss • contribs) 21:41, 17 February 2015 (UTC)

Hi! I'm currently reading Introduction to Digital Labor: The Internet as Playground and Factory by Scholz. I was considering writing about the shifts in labour markets to the internet but I think it could be quite similar to LeeA94 research on Free Labour? I'll just keep working with it and if it's quite similar we could both edit it together? Clg00025 (discuss • contribs) 19:14, 17 February 2015 (UTC)

RE: Intro

I think we can put maybe four of five lines for both labour and social media to get some of the general stuff out of the way early. Maybe one person from each group can write one for each and then we'll discuss what to drop/add.

Also seeing as we'll cover all of the reading, how about a sub-section dedicated to each scholar in their respective sections so that we can see clear critical contrast? Again I'm not quite sure how to actually put these in so anybody willing to give it a shot? --Michaelpa95 (discuss • contribs) 16:30, 17 February 2015 (UTC)


 * 1) PaulinaDaria (discuss • contribs)Hi guys! I just add some short introduction is that ok? Currently I'm reading book Digital Labour and Karl Marx.

I'm currently researching the history of social media (where and how it all began etc.), Free labour and I was planning to look at social media surveillance but I see Mich.henderson is researching something almost identical to this... perhaps I could add to this section as well if I see something that hasn't been covered? LeeA94 (discuss • contribs) 17:15, 16 February 2015 (UTC)

One suggestion could be that we could each add a heading underlining the current topic we are working on, on the main page. This way we will all know what subject each of us are covering. Mich.henderson (discuss • contribs) 13:09, 16 February 2015 (UTC)

Hi everyone! I am just a bit worried that we are all to focused on our small groups. From how I understand it, the small groups are only for our group presentations later on in the module? Maybe we should try to focus on making this chapter the best! Im not sure how we could all start, but splitting up sections and topics might be a start? --Josdah93 (discuss • contribs) 12:09, 16 February 2015 (UTC)

At this present time I am carrying out research on three topics: The rise of social media, Government surveillance and the way in which MPs view and interpret social media. These will each be placed under individual headings in the appropriate places. Mich.henderson (discuss • contribs) 12:10, 16 February 2015 (UTC)

'''PS. I think it would be wise to post anything new at the top of the edit box underneath all-party group discussion so that new posts are at the top and scroll down for older ones. '''Courtneyorr (discuss • contribs) 12:58, 13 February 2015 (UTC)

#Hashtag have had our group meeting and outlined our plan of action, whilst I understand it can be complicated to discuss things on here I do think it's important since 50% of the mark goes to engagement and he needs to see it on here! Like we mentioned above everyone could post their rough ideas about what they think they'll be covering and whenever they are researching anything to add or edit maybe just say "Currently researching..." At the moment I am planning to cover the top 5 (or 3) most popular/successful social media platforms. I will write them as different headings "YouTube" "Facebook" etc. I think someone in my group also has the intro (in terms of definitions) under control however I'm sure once it's been posted others will want to add to it based on what they've found researching. Courtneyorr (discuss • contribs) 12:48, 13 February 2015 (UTC)

I think it would be wise to devide the work between the group, that way we can maximise productivity by not having multiple people going over the same stuff whilst leaving some areas uncovered. I think it would be a good idea once everyone has got a rough plan to try to come together and decide what each group will focus on. It is not always particularly easy to communicate on here so it would be good if we find another way, possibly a few advocates from each group meeting up to discuss how to proceed. Also I think we need to try and collate time scales between groups, again to prevent clashing. We probably want a steady build of content over all the areas, without it we may end up being spread thin across topics if there is limited content in some areas rather than being able to expand upon and focus on an area where we have already as groups put in a lot of research. JamesHGardner (discuss • contribs) 19:02, 12 February 2015 (UTC)

Really successful meeting today. Lined up some very interesting topics and have laid out a very well structured plan. Mich.henderson (discuss • contribs) 17:01, 11 February 2015 (UTC)

Hi everyone, following up Hashtag's meeting today we have had a look at content for the introduction and started noting sub topics we think should be covered... can other groups list sub topics they are thinking about? Courtneyorr (discuss • contribs) 16:18, 11 February 2015 (UTC)

Let's all collaborate, let's be friends. Let's stick it to the man. Craigpaton27 (discuss • contribs) 15:49, 11 February 2015 (UTC)

Well at last count it looks like there's 3 groups doing this, we were thinking about doing social media stuff and maybe digital labour from different ideological perspectives Craigpaton27 (discuss • contribs) 15:56, 11 February 2015 (UTC)

Hello all, Do we want to divide up the work between separate groups? If so, a) how many groups do we have exactly, and b) what would those subtopics look like?Blairalice (discuss • contribs) 17:43, 10 February 2015 (UTC)

OMG so many peeps dis gonna be fun lol :p xxx (I don't really talk like that). Shall we have a tea party? I really think we need to have some sort of party. Danvevers (discuss • contribs) 17:49, 10 February 2015 (UTC)

Ya Evigheden (discuss • contribs) 14:37, 10 February 2015 (UTC)

Digital Tigers... I don't know why Jackylumberjack (discuss • contribs) 14:38, 10 February 2015 (UTC)

Social butterflies... CharRAWRlessenger (discuss • contribs) 14:38, 10 February 2015 (UTC)

Now everyone can read my sarcastic comments. TaylorMPWinger (discuss • contribs) 14:39, 10 February 2015 (UTC)

Hi, I'm a member of team #hashtag. . Courtneyorr (discuss • contribs) 14:41, 10 February 2015 (UTC)

We don't have a team name yet...Wearsonlyblack (discuss • contribs) 14:40, 10 February 2015 (UTC)

Digital Tigers #bigstrips Hopkinson28 (discuss • contribs) 14:44, 10 February 2015 (UTC)

We also were too lazy to think of a name yet--RButterworth95 (discuss • contribs) 14:41, 10 February 2015 (UTC)

I don't have a team name yet, but when I do, it will be awesome... --Smurph24 (discuss • contribs) 14:42, 10 February 2015 (UTC)

I'm part of 'Social Butterflies' - LewisMcKenzie51 (discuss • contribs) 15:40, 10 February 2015 (UTC)

Couldn't think of a good enough team name yet! Amg00020 (discuss • contribs) 15:43, 10 February 2015 (UTC)

My team hasn't decided on a topic yet so I'm just randomly saying hi here. PinjaLeh (discuss • contribs) 15:41, 10 February 2015 (UTC)

My team name is the social butterflies, deal with it. Eubo1 (discuss • contribs) 15:42, 10 February 2015 (UTC)

Digital Tigers United #Represent --Josdah93 (discuss • contribs) 15:44, 10 February 2015 (UTC)

Big up Digital Tigers. Hello team --Michaelpa95 (discuss • contribs) 16:46, 10 February 2015 (UTC)

Not part of a team yet --Alena00048 (discuss • contribs) 16:47, 10 February 2015 (UTC)

Currently in the process of working out a group name --Anna hoodie (discuss • contribs) 16:47, 10 February 2015 (UTC)

Go Digital Tigers, go! Blairalice (discuss • contribs) 16:48, 10 February 2015 (UTC)

We have no yet decided on a group name, it is rather hard --TelleGrieve (discuss • contribs) 16:48, 10 February 2015 (UTC)

Representing team #hashtag and we are here to party. Or pass. Then party.. We're going to party at some point. Craigpaton27 (discuss • contribs) 16:49, 10 February 2015 (UTC)

Currently with some team mates thinking of a name... Great things take time --Nmm00005 (discuss • contribs) 16:51, 10 February 2015 (UTC)

I have no idea what I'm doing... Kellymcdonach7 (discuss • contribs) 17:46, 10 February 2015 (UTC)

Help tab saves lives-- It might be pretty obvious but take a look at the little 'Help' tab at the top of the edit box, it gives you all the commands for writing and it's quite a life saver-- for anyone who missed it! Jackylumberjack (discuss • contribs) 17:35, 10 February 2015 (UTC)

I still need a team. Someone adopt me please. Oac00001 (discuss • contribs) 17:45, 10 February 2015 (UTC)

I don't have a group yet Eilidhmurray (discuss • contribs) 17:49, 10 February 2015 (UTC)

nicely done, team(s) this discussion page is really well organised. Now go forth and populate with awesome content! GregXenon01 (discuss • contribs) 17:22, 18 February 2015 (UTC)

Hey guys just having a look through the other chapters (I'm working on Web as a Public and Private Space) and noticed that in your glossary you had the term disinhibition paired with a definition for Online Disinhibition so I've gone ahead and added in the 'Online' part. Just because disinhibition can have other meanings. Laurasmajdorboom (discuss • contribs) 11:17, 5 March 2015 (UTC) Hi guys! I going to add a small section about labour, to explain what does it mean and some Hegel and Marx ideas about labour, is that ok? #PaulinaDaria (discuss • contribs)

Digital Tigers, Assemble
I thought it would be handy to have a discussion section just for our group, amongst the rest of the discussion just to make it easier to separate and easier on the eyes! So direct your patter here, team <3 Jackylumberjack (discuss • contribs) 17:05, 10 February 2015 (UTC) Good idea. It looks like we have 4 different groups so far? Maybe the other groups could make a similar space to chat inter-group. So, Tigers, where should we start? Blairalice (discuss • contribs) 17:25, 10 February 2015 (UTC)

Please help. Please, please please. Cmvance (discuss • contribs) 17:47, 10 February 2015 (UTC)

Good idea with the sub section. Should we split up and look for clues tackle the reading individually and then report back what's essential? Just so we have a framework that we can then flesh out. Anyone got any other ideas on how to break down the task? --Michaelpa95 (discuss • contribs) 19:12, 10 February 2015 (UTC) Yes, I think that's a good idea. I guess we first have to decide what reading, specifically, and then divide it up fairly evenly between us? Or does someone have a better idea on how to tackle this? Blairalice (discuss • contribs) 14:44, 11 February 2015 (UTC)

My reading Thought I'd take a look at Fuchs chapter in 'Social Media: A critical' introduction seeing as I'm an English student with pretty basic understanding of this stuff. Obviously I'll be reading everything but I'll come back and maybe bullet point some things that seem worthy of being included from an introductory point of view. --Michaelpa95 (discuss • contribs) 18:15, 11 February 2015 (UTC) Re: My Reading: I'm also looking at Fuchs but he covers quite a lot so I don't think it could hurt. --> Just a jumping off point for me as I am also an English student with a pretty basic understanding of this stuff.Blairalice (discuss • contribs) 18:21, 11 February 2015 (UTC)

Cool I'll post some main points under headings here tomorrow and see what we think is useful.Anyone making a move on other things? --Michaelpa95 (discuss • contribs) 17:25, 12 February 2015 (UTC)

Heading ideas I think we need to have a section addressing the questions of 'what is digital labour?' and 'what are social media?' just to declutter other sections by avoiding repetition. Does anyone know how to make subheadings on the book because I'm not sure? --Michaelpa95 (discuss • contribs) 16:24, 17 February 2015 (UTC)

Michael, I think those sections are good to include! Maybe an argument section of if it can be counted as labour or not? --Josdah93 (discuss • contribs) 10:40, 18 February 2015 (UTC)


 * Hey guys, sorry I'm late to the party I've been away for a week with little chance to jump on a laptop! I think your idea of addressing the definitions of the topic is fab and I'd suggest you put it in the "Main Concepts" section! Also Michaelpa95 take a look on the 'Help' tab at the top of the edit text box, it's like a drop down menu and it has all the keys to make different headings :) Jackylumberjack (discuss • contribs) 15:17, 24 February 2015 (UTC)

#Hashtag Banter.
I've started a section abut the change in journalism through social media. I will put it up tomorrow because i'm still not sure with the referencing Y2Scott (discuss • contribs) 22:42, 5 March 2015 (UTC)

I typed some stuff up at the top of 'shifts in traditional labour' and it looks OK there... I think! I was now going to type something about recruitment via social media do you think that could still come under traditional labour shifts? Yeah good idea! Definitely start a new section for that and let me know when you get round to it so I can give it a read (Courtneyorr (discuss • contribs) 17:45, 2 March 2015 (UTC))

Also, I was thinking of doing a different section on cyber bullying, which is obviously a massive repercussion of social media. I'll knock something together and try and put it up today. Craigpaton27 (discuss • contribs) 16:32, 2 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Craigpaton27 I created a subsection called 'trolling' which basically overlaps with cyber bullying if you want to submit your work into that!

That sounds like a pretty good idea Courtney! Maybe see how much you can find on it and what you would write, and if it's quite a lot then make a different section, and if not just add it to the section that already exists? Craigpaton27 (discuss • contribs) 16:29, 2 March 2015 (UTC)

I'm doing some research on jobs - not just the jobs created within social media firms themselves (inventors, developers, designers) but mainly the way social media has changed the traditional organisational structure in that new departments/job titles/salaries have had to be created in order for a business to keep up with social media... do you think I should start a new section for this or add it to another section like shifts in traditional labour? (Courtneyorr (discuss • contribs) 15:50, 2 March 2015 (UTC))

Hey, just thought I would get in touch and see how everyone is finding the project and how you are all getting on. Mich.henderson (discuss • contribs) 13:39, 24 February 2015 (UTC)

Just using this to log whatever we do as a group Craigpaton27 (discuss • contribs) 15:51, 11 February 2015 (UTC)

Social Butterflies
I've heard that the assessment on the wikibooks project ends at 5 today, so I've done a final check for spelling/grammar/link errors. I still think we should use the discussion page to meet up and communicate for the presentation though.TaylorMPWinger (discuss • contribs) 11:26, 6 March 2015 (UTC)

Go for it. If possible it may be a good idea if we could link them directly to either on of the social media`s or a case study. If there is loads of them may I suggest that you try to pick a few to emphasise. Perhaps do a section on major pro`s and cons just to break it up and stop it looking to list based. JamesHGardner (discuss • contribs) 15:28, 5 March 2015 (UTC)


 * If you dont mind, I'm just going to leave it in list form. I believe that's easier to read/comprehend and its better than just scrunching them all into one paragraph. Additionally, I don't think it'd be wise to put them with the individual social media sites because all of them apply to social media in general and not just one site if that makes sense. --CharRAWRlessenger (discuss • contribs) 21:29, 5 March 2015 (UTC)

If its alright with you guys, I'm going to continue to focus on the pro's and con's of social media. The source I listed with the pro's and con's has a huge list I'd still like to get through and add some more of the most important ones. --CharRAWRlessenger (discuss • contribs) 23:21, 4 March 2015 (UTC)

LewisMcKenzie51 I'm going to add to the history section now but please add anything you want to it. LeeA94 (discuss • contribs) 16:47, 4 March 2015 (UTC)

LeeA94 are you happy to start with the History? if not ill look to get a bit done with it! --LewisMcKenzie51 (discuss • contribs) 14:18, 4 March 2015 (UTC)

TOPICS OF FOCUS 1.The history of social media. 2.The rise of social media. 3.Additional content on individual social media descriptions. 4.Case studies of social media sites. 5.Academic studies of social media/academic view-points. 6.Images for individual social media sub-sections. 7.Formatting the pages/ subsections and breakdown. 8.Free Labour: additional content. JamesHGardner (discuss • contribs) 12:22, 3 March 2015 (UTC)

All agreed, moving forward with the focus of contributing mainly to The history and rise to social media, which is being covered mostly but by Lee and myself, Digital media and YouTube by James, the powers of each site and possible case studies. Also Taylor is adding to the existing inputs of free labour --LewisMcKenzie51 (discuss • contribs) 12:04, 3 March 2015 (UTC)

I've decided then that my segment of the presentation will focus on the free labour aspect. I've already started. TaylorMPWinger (discuss • contribs) 15:26, 2 March 2015 (UTC)

The lecture will probably end early like most lectures, as long as we are all in agreement to meet up in the study zone (because then you can talk) afterwards, everything will be fine. TaylorMPWinger (discuss • contribs) 14:54, 2 March 2015 (UTC)

I had no idea the lecture was two hours long. But either way if we meet up between the lecture and the seminar to sort things out. Go ahead with whatever you want. Like Lewis said though we decided the other to focus on certain areas so we can communicate and collaborate more on those areas as well as more effectively coordinate when it comes to the in class presentation. JamesHGardner (discuss • contribs) 12:04, 2 March 2015 (UTC)

Don't think any of us realised this weeks lecture was 2 hours long, so yeah straight after the lecture would be fine! Do as much work as you can Taylor, no one is stopping you! However we have tried to focus on certain areas which will make it easier for ourselves for the presentations! --LewisMcKenzie51 (discuss • contribs) 11:43, 2 March 2015 (UTC)

You are aware we have a lecture for this class from 10 until 12 on that same day, sort of hinders that plan. If we meet up in the study zone after the lecture we can get the work done. If you confirm that I can do the sections on free labour for the presentation I can start right now. Lots of love, TaylorMPWinger (discuss • contribs) 11:36, 2 March 2015 (UTC)

Meeting: Just thought I would re-empahise that we are going to be having a final meeting on Tuesday between 11 and 1 with the purpose of planning how to maximise the remaining time we have and to make sure everyone knows what is happening. It may also be useful if we could make preliminary plans for how we will proceed with the presentation because it is not long until that as well. JamesHGardner (discuss • contribs) 22:05, 1 March 2015 (UTC)

After meeting up, we've agreed a focus on Social media and possibly media convergence. Also for the individual social media tabs, the pros and cons is a good idea after description. I've started discussing some other aspects such as catfish, cyber-bullying etc too! So would be good if we could all get started on contributing to these parts! --LewisMcKenzie51 (discuss • contribs) 14:52, 26 February 2015 (UTC)

I think I got all I could out if the Fusch article, does anyone else know any other good articles I can copy and paste use?

Sub section for this group. Does anyone have any thoughts on sub topics? LeeA94 (discuss • contribs) 18:04, 11 February 2015 (UTC)

We should have done Creative Commons, it would have been so much easier. TaylorMPWinger (discuss • contribs) 13:46, 18 February 2015 (UTC)

Don't be offended if I correct your grammar, it's only because you're doing it wrong. TaylorMPWinger (discuss • contribs) 13:43, 18 February 2015 (UTC)

There's an article by Fuchs called "What is Digital Labour? What is Digital Work? What's their Difference? And Why do these Questions Matter for Understanding Social Media?" I haven't read it properly yet but it looks like there might be some helpful sections in this that we could look at. LeeA94 (discuss • contribs) 22:22, 11 February 2015 (UTC)

I shall have a look at it. I have not ideas yet for sub categories. Nothing has be posted yet on any of the pages so it would be nice if we could get something up on the Digital Labour and Social Media page first. I think we should have sourced sub categories by no later than early next week so we can start delegating tasks and communicating with the other teams. It would be great if we could get everyone in the same place, either online or in person, at the same time to get things started. It is not always the easiest to communicate on here due to clashes. Considering we now have two reading weeks everyone may be a bit all over the place so it would be good to get coordinated as soon as possible. I also just finally wanted to check all members of our group have found there way here. JamesHGardner (discuss • contribs) 18:47, 12 February 2015 (UTC)

I was thinking maybe we could do a sub category on the history of social media (where/how it all began etc.) That could lead nicely into the top 3 social media sites that #Hashtag are planning to write about. LeeA94 (discuss • contribs) 15:49, 13 February 2015 (UTC)

Hey guys! Sorry I'm late getting to the discussion! I've been gallivanting about the countryside! I have a suggestion. If all of you have facebook, can we make a Social Butterflies page on there and communicate through that? I dont know about you, but trying to communicate on here is next to impossible... Additionally, if possible, we should all meet up together sometime soon to discuss our game plan. I will be in Stirling for most of break. So what does everyone think about the facebook page and possibly meeting up sometime soon?CharRAWRlessenger (discuss • contribs)

It seems that we are all off to a bit of a slow start, it is to be expected really as we gather information. I think it would be great if as many of us as possible could meet up. May I propose some time on Wednesday (25th). We still have a lot of time but we need to get things really started soon and try to divide work. JamesHGardner (discuss • contribs) 01:39, 24 February 2015 (UTC)

Hey everybody! Lewis, James, & I met today to discuss how our group can make a meaningful contribution to the chapter and came up with the idea of focusing on the pros & cons of the popular social media sites listed in the chapter. In addition to the pros & cons we also thought it would be good to add how media convergence factors into each of those popular social media sites. What does everyone think?! Let us know on here, and we can hash it out :)I hope you all had a great couple weeks off from school :) --CharRAWRlessenger (discuss • contribs) 15:49, 26 February 2015 (UTC)

Lewis: Sorry I didn't see your little blurb about what we talked about today at the top! That might prove to be somewhat of a problem. With that being said, we should decide whether or not to put new content of the discussion at the top or bottom of the section. So far, I've noticed that people are putting it at the bottom ... should we continue to do that? or switch it up? --CharRAWRlessenger (discuss • contribs) 15:52, 26 February 2015 (UTC)

I think we should try to put new content we have decided upon at the bottom just to keep a fluent timeline. I would also be useful to post as much as possible under the social butterflies subsection as of now as the page is getting quite busy and I am sure it will continue to do so. The only other thing of note from the meeting was that we are planning on meeting once more on Tuesday between 11 and 1 (lecture and seminar) just to have a final catch up. There has been a chat setup on facebook and through email if anyone needs to communicate outside wikipedia. JamesHGardner (discuss • contribs) 14:11, 27 February 2015 (UTC)

Additional note: Looking over the main timeline it seems new stuff is at the top. Under this subsection I think we should just keep posting at the bottom whilst putting main notes or alerts at the top. JamesHGardner (discuss • contribs) 14:15, 27 February 2015 (UTC)

Hey guys!! I just had an idea. I know we wanted to do the pro's and cons of each social media site we have up here, but what if we also did a pro's and cons section of social media in general? I put up a little section under the social media sites if you want to read it and let me know what you think. If it's a no go, then we can take it down no problem :) Let me know what y'all think! --CharRAWRlessenger (discuss • contribs) 22:35, 28 February 2015 (UTC)

I think thats a good idea. It links more into the critical analysis elements. IT would also be good if we can try to incorporate and expand that segment within each of the individual social media sections. It may also be a good place to add some academic opinions as well to show alternative perspectives. JamesHGardner (discuss • contribs) 21:57, 1 March 2015 (UTC)

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Hey team! So we hadn't got a section on this discussion page yet so I've added it in. I'm currently looking at the changes from traditional to digital labour. I think this would be a good place to discuss what we're looking at rather than our facebook chat because here it's all recorded. Obviously we've still got the whole group discussion at the top but I thought it might be helpful to have this for our team if we're trying to communicate! Clg00025 (discuss • contribs) 14:04, 23 February 2015 (UTC)

Sounds like such a good idea to have everything we plan here so it's easy yo see and refer to. I've had a look at the subheadings for this chapter and I've started doing some research on the topic Ideological Perspectives, which I'll update to the Wikibook within the next couple of days! We should try and set our aims out here to see who would prefer to write about which topic and what dates we should try and achieve these by, just to make sure we're organised and aren't missing anything out or leaving anything last minute. Amg00020 (discuss • contribs) 17:12, 23 February 2015 (UTC)

Hey! Currently I'm reading an interesting article "Theorising and analysing digital labour" by Fusch, if you don't mind I would like to add some informations about Facebook. #PaulinaDaria (discuss • contribs)

Hey guys. Was thinking about moving on to some research on the Digital Labour. I was thinking about adding in some info on advertising as digital labour if that's okay with everyone, as I think advertising is a really important role in the functionality and production side of the digital world. Feel free to add to or change anything if you want to! Annablack94 (discuss • contribs) 01:53, 24 February 2015 (UTC)

I attempted to add a footnote to one of the sentences I wrote but couldn't really figure out how, so I had a search on the LaTeX wikipage to try and get some help regarding it, and I found that (usually) when you write "\footnote{text}", it's supposed to work but when I tried it, it wouldn't change the format into a footnote/link and just stayed as text. I did what it said (ie. no spaces in-between the word and the code, as well as filling in the 'text' section with what I wanted to footnote), but nothing happened and I'm a little confused. It's not a huge issue, but I was wondering if you guys had any suggestions/ managed to include a footnote correctly? Amg00020 (discuss • contribs) 11:47, 24 February 2015 (UTC)

Annablack94 Yeah, good idea! Advertising will be a key part in social media so go for it! Amg00020 I'm not sure how to use footnotes but I'll have a look and let you know if I have any luck Clg00025 (discuss • contribs) 19:04, 24 February 2015 (UTC)

Hey guys! I've been reading the Christian Fuchs chapter about The Power and Political Economy of social media and I've been quite interested in the points he raises about corporations using social media for their own gain and how this can shape ideology. Annablack94 I saw that in the main discussion at the top that you were planning on talking a bit about this same topic so I was hoping to add a bit more to that, if that's okay with you? I'll try and find different points to the ones you have mentioned so we can have quite a good section on this. I'll add what I plan to talk about in the main discussion when I've a clearer idea of exactly what I'll adding so all groups can comment on it too! Clg00025 Amg00020 If you need some help with footnotes, if you click on the 'help' link in the editing box and then scroll to 'Links', it shows how to reference in text! Also I hope everyone finds this link helps you with footnotes and also it's good for looking at how to format subheadings and editing etc Editing Help Page on Wiki Wearsonlyblack (discuss • contribs) 20:51, 24 February 2015 (UTC)

Thanks so much Claire-Louise, it seems so obvious now! I added something to the Glossary section and although I rephrased the term and put it into my own words, I'm unsure if I need to state which book I got the definition from? Amg00020 (discuss • contribs) 11:26, 25 February 2015 (UTC)

Yeah that's fine with me! Annablack94 (discuss • contribs) 01:23, 25 February 2015 (UTC)

Thanks Wearsonlyblack ! I think I've done the referencing right now, it looks ok in the main book anyway and similar to what other people have. Amg00020 I'm actually not sure about that, I'm guessing you would reference it anyway because it's someone else's work? Hopefully someone else will know for sure though! If no one else here knows, maybe if you post on the all group discussion someone there will know? Sorry I'm not being very helpful! Clg00025 (discuss • contribs) 16:48, 25 February 2015 (UTC)

Hi guys, I just did a little section on Snapchat feel free to edit if needed but i need some help, from the information I found online it says snapchat was launched in July but theres another source which states it as September   just wondering if any of you knew and if so please feel free to change it. Also sorry I've been MIA if you want me to work on a particular area let me know LittleMermaid95 (discuss • contribs) 21:10, 25 February 2015 (UTC)

Hey, is anyone working on Surveillance and mind me adding more info to it? It's cool if someone's already on it! Don't wana take over anyone's work. Annablack94 (discuss • contribs) 07:59, 26 February 2015 (UTC)

Hi guys I'm going to add some stuff about facebook and instagram today. I read few chapters of Fusch book "Digital Labour and Karl Marx" there is a lot of interesting stuff, he compares Apple or Amazon systems of work to the slavery, it's a lot of information about Marx's ideology too. Do you think it's related to our subject? Do you think it's worth to add some brief informations into the introduction section? #PaulinaDaria (discuss • contribs) I've added a section 'Digital Peasantry and slavery' with some informations. Feel free to edit if you want to put some more informations. #PaulinaDaria (discuss • contribs)

Amg00020 I think you would have to reference it if it's a direct quote/reference from a book? Probably best to just to be sure? Wearsonlyblack (discuss • contribs) 13:31, 26 February 2015 (UTC)

LittleMermaid95 I'd use the reference that seems the most legit in relation to the start up of snapchat? I'm not 100% sure about that one Wearsonlyblack (discuss • contribs) 13:31, 26 February 2015 (UTC)

PaulinaDaria I think the stuff about Marx etc would definitely link seeing as it seems to discuss ideas relating to digital labour! I see no harm in adding it in! Wearsonlyblack (discuss • contribs) 13:31, 26 February 2015 (UTC)

Annablack94 I had been writing in 'the rise of media convergence' heading and saw that there was another media convergence later on down the list, so yeah I think it makes sense to have them together in the same place! I don't think what we wrote clashes with each other so I think fitting it in before or after would be a good idea? Wearsonlyblack (discuss • contribs) 23:47, 26 February 2015 (UTC)

Yeah I agree Wearsonlyblack, I think both parts will fit together no problem :) I'll work out the tidiest way to join them and do it either tonight or tomorrow Annablack94 (discuss • contribs) 00:14, 27 February 2015 (UTC)

Wearsonlyblack That's it done, hope it's okay. I hope you don't mind but I took out the sentence about people doing their shopping online cause it's not as much linked to media convergence or interlinked media platforms, I think that's more to do with technology developing/things going online? I might be wrong though, I can add it back in if you want Annablack94 (discuss • contribs) 00:55, 27 February 2015 (UTC)

Annablack94 yeah that's fine! I think you're right, it's not so much to do with a converged media platform and seeing as it wasn't expanded a lot, doesn't make sense to keep it in :) Sorry must have been getting carried away with my writing haha. Just letting everyone know that I'm currently doing work on user generated data, which I have added underneath PaulinaDaria 's section on Digital Peasantry and Slavery. I was also going to add a bit about pay per view advertising and keywords on google related to specific target audiences etc and how this links to the idea of the exploitation of the user. Wearsonlyblack (discuss • contribs) 01:10, 27 February 2015 (UTC)

Are any of you doing the history of social media/rise of social media? I'm looking for something else to contribute to now that I've finished my original section. Clg00025 (discuss • contribs) 16:52, 27 February 2015 (UTC)
 * I'm currently finding information on the 'Ideological Perspectives' section, but I'm finding it difficult to sort through some chapters that I have found, so if you're looking for something to add to then feel more than welcome! I don't think anything has been written for that section from any of the other groups so if you think you'll be able to find information to contribute then go for it! --Amg00020 (discuss • contribs) 20:58, 27 February 2015 (UTC)

Thanks for adding some stuff on Digital Peasantry and Slavery section! It looks much better now. I just put some quote to Social Media section from Fuchs work "Theorising and analysing digital labour: From global value chains to modes of production".#PaulinaDaria (discuss • contribs)

Amg00020 Ok, I'll do some research over the next couple of days and try help out! Thanks. Clg00025 (discuss • contribs) 15:07, 28 February 2015 (UTC)
 * I've just added a little information on power and influence online relating to 'ideological perspectives' section etc. It's related to reading I was doing on Fuchs and I added a quote as well! I hope you think it fits in alright! If I find anymore information relating to it I'll add it in so we can have a really good section on this. Do you think participation culture links to this section as well? Wearsonlyblack (discuss • contribs) 23:33, 28 February 2015 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I think what you've added links pretty well and is really relevant to the subheading! I think information on participant culture could work well with this section yes, as some information could be really relevant and help get the point across on the different ideological perspectives, so if you feel like you have anything to add then go ahead! --Amg00020 (discuss • contribs) 00:01, 2 March 2015 (UTC)

Hi! I've just added a short information in Facebook section. It's about exchange relation between Facebook and advertisers. I'll do some more reseach tomorrow. #PaulinaDaria (discuss • contribs)

Hi sorry I've been away   I've been super ill but I'm back and i promise I'm going to pull my weight haha    thanks Wearsonlyblack  i've just found Snapchat's blog so I'm going to look back in that and check

Was anyone in this group working on government surveillance? i noticed there was only one small paragraph in that section so i've started adding to it, will continue to add more tomorrow if that's okay Annablack94 (discuss • contribs) 23:14, 1 March 2015 (UTC)


 * I think Amg00020 mentioned in the all group discussion that she was working on it and a few others have mentioned it up there too. They all seem happy for people to add and edit so I'm sure that will be fine Anna! Clg00025 (discuss • contribs) 16:45, 2 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Yes, I added a couple of sentences to the Government surveillance section a couple of days ago because it appeared to look like nobody had started doing anything for it, and I didn't want to leave it empty, so I just added something small to get things going! Not sure if what I wrote was relevant, so if you feel like it's not, feel more than welcome to go ahead and edit it however you like/ feel appropriate by all means! Amg00020 (discuss • contribs) 17:14, 2 March 2015 (UTC)

Hey  i just wrote a bit under the heading of Digital Labour and Youtube because it was empty but I'm not 100% sure if thats where it should go   I can think of anywhere else its better suited right now but if you have any suggestions let me know  or if i add more to it it might move  LittleMermaid95 (discuss • contribs) 20:21, 2 March 2015 (UTC)
 * I've just added some information about pay per view & click advertising relating specifically to YouTube under the same section! Wearsonlyblack (discuss • contribs) 22:02, 2 March 2015 (UTC)

I just added a photo to the snapchat section just to test it   it's easy to get rid of if you don't like but i think it looks nice    id like to do it for all the different social media headings in that section  LittleMermaid95 (discuss • contribs) 22:11, 2 March 2015 (UTC)
 * I think it looks really good! It breaks up the text really well Wearsonlyblack (discuss • contribs) 00:26, 5 March 2015 (UTC)

I've just added a paragraph to Free Labour. I'm not sure if anyone in this group is contributing to that part but I haven't changed anything that was in before, just added another paragraph! Clg00025 (discuss • contribs) 16:57, 3 March 2015 (UTC)

Hey guys, posting this in both sections.. I was thinking of adding a section 'Issues with Surveillance' or something along those lines to show the negative implications of being watched constantly in terms of citizen privacy etc. Is that alright with everyone before I go ahead/anyone have any thoughts on it? Annablack94 (discuss • contribs) 23:21, 3 March 2015 (UTC)
 * That sounds like a good idea, it definitely relates! Wearsonlyblack (discuss • contribs) 00:26, 5 March 2015 (UTC)

I was thinking of adding a section about terrorism on social media? We could talk about how they use social media to spread their ideas & terrorism videos etc? I'm going to add it underneath Advertising on social media section, so if anyone has any info they want to add to it, that would be great! I'll add this to the main discussion too Wearsonlyblack (discuss • contribs) 00:26, 5 March 2015 (UTC)

Hi guys I've just created new section 'Concepts of Labour' and I've added some brief informations about Hegel and Marx ideas about labour. If you have some more informations feel free to add some stuff. PaulinaDaria (discuss • contribs)
 * I might add in a paragraph if that's ok! Clg00025 (discuss • contribs) 20:20, 5 March 2015 (UTC)

What time is the deadline for this again? Annablack94 (discuss • contribs) 20:06, 5 March 2015 (UTC)
 * 5pm tomorrow Clg00025 (discuss • contribs) 20:20, 5 March 2015 (UTC)

PaulinaDaria Thought I'd give you a heads up, I was chatting up on the main conversation above and people thought the 'concepts of labour' part would be better at the very beginning on the digital labour section. Is that ok with you? It's been moved around but everything that you wrote has been kept the same! If you think it's better in the original place then let us know. There a section on the all-group discussion above if you want to comment there. Clg00025 (discuss • contribs) 23:21, 5 March 2015 (UTC) That's absolutely fine for me, I'll try my best to add some more stuff to this section PaulinaDaria (discuss • contribs) Ok I've added some more information about 'concepts of labour' I hope it will do. PaulinaDaria (discuss • contribs)
 * I think that section is looking good now! I just edited a few of the words in the paragraph that I added yesterday because of spelling mistakes. Other than that I think it's fine. Clg00025 (discuss • contribs) 14:02, 6 March 2015 (UTC)