Talk:Music Theory/Jazz

I know I should edit this page instead of complain about it, but I don't have time right now.

The whole triplet explanation of jazz phrasing is a very classical way to approach it. If you listen to jazz even in the 30s but certainly 40s and after, it is not really triplet eights, especially as the tempos get faster. Rather, the offbeat notes are accented. You can play notes totally straight, but if you accent (e.g., tongue on trumpet) off the beat, you will be getting there.


 * Hoo-ee. Well, at least there's a lot of work to do. Yes. The explanation of swing was the first thing that caught my eye. Don't worry, there are better educators out there who are more familiar with how these things work. I don't want Wikibooks to not have a damn good book on one of the truest American art forms. (Until I actually get to editing the articles: What "swing" denotes is an organisation of rhythms which can mean different things in different contexts - e.g., Latin jazz has a different kind of swing that is completely unrelated to "swing" music. The "staggered triplet" myth is one that must be dispelled; it's not jazz, and it's not helpful to understanding jazz.) To the buzcave! this raven is icy (talk) 07:38, 15 May 2009 (UTC)

Also, Dave Brubeck's appearance as one of the first jazz artists mentioned is another classical music lover tip-off, since he was very palatable to that crowd.

Anyway, there are more important properties of jazz that the way eight notes were phrased. Call and response is good (which is present). Heavy blues influence, especially 12-bar blues. Emphasis on improvisation and improvised solos.

where did you come up with this " Jazz is very widely known as the only art form to have originated in the United States"

--- art form as "art music," as opposed to "low" or "folk music"... its a poor word choice, but is considered legit. If you are looking at it from a "classical" perspective, which is the easiest, if not most correct, way to look at jazz, it is the most "arty" music from the US, blues being a folk style and rock being a commercial style.

bebop
how can you write a book about jazz and not included the greatest virtuosos and improvisers that ever walked the planet; Coltrain, Park, The Dizz, Monk, Joe Pass, Bill Even, Phil effing Woods, Clifford Blown, Horace Silver, et. al.

Also, Chick Chorea was NOT a Latin jazz player. He was a jazz player preferred by miles Davis for Bitches Brew and a couple of more. Even john Mclaughlin was a jazz player with miles before Miled encouraged him to form his own band which became "Mahavishnu Orchestra. His "electric band" lineups starting in mid-eighties were fusion band. Majahishu Orchestra was a fusion band. Fusion means Jazz played with rock instruments. Jackhammer111 (discuss • contribs) 18:13, 5 August 2019 (UTC)