Talk:Muggles' Guide to Harry Potter/Books/Goblet of Fire/Chapter 22

Ginny out of character
Twice, now, an anonymous editor has changed the analysis on this page to indicate that (1) Harry and Ron teasing Neville is appropriate as they need to make themselves feel better, and that (2) Ginny is deliberately cruel in her telling Hermione loudly that Harry and Ron don't have dates. Neither of these is accurate. For what it is worth, teasing Neville is never justified, no matter how much Neville seems to invite it, any more than teasing anyone else is justified. And Ginny's words are intended for Hermione alone, and we can assume that Hermione alone heard them, apart from Harry and perhaps Ron, as nobody else then in the common room was seen to react to them. Ginny's actions here are more along the lines of the way her mother would react, rather than a form of cruelty. Chazz (talk) 06:02, 8 June 2008 (UTC)


 * A third edit by apparently the same editor has appeared and disappeared, with the comment "I'm sorry, i'm sorry, i just feel sorry for harry and ron because cho and fleur turned them down. Poor guys...i do feel bad for them, the patil twins aren't nearly as cool." I'd argue that point... Fleur at this point is far too full of herself, and Padma is a much better choice for Ron if he can forget Hermione. But of course he can't, even though he doesn't yet realize it himself. I wouldn't say the same about Lavender, but there you go. Cho... well, that's a whole other story in itself. Anyway... I note that all three edits have come in from wildly varying IP addresses, and if this anonymous editor is reading, I would invite him or her to sign up for a free ID so that we can at least know we're always talking to the same person. Chazz (talk) 06:21, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

"Teasing" and Ginny's popularity
A recent editor has asked when Harry and Ron were teasing Neville, and why comments about Ginny's popularity were reverted.

The editor in question, who I hope will get an account, is correct about the teasing; at that point in the story, Neville is not even present. While there is some teasing going on, it is in absentia; Ron pokes fun at Neville for having asked Hermione, in a way which makes it a dig at Hermione as well, and then is astounded when Ginny, with some diffidence, admits that she is going to the Ball with Neville.

The reason for the reversion of the comment about Ginny's popularity is not that it is incorrect, but that it was worded unprofessionally:
 * Thus, I think we can safely say that GOF is the first book we see "the new, cool" Ginny in, and not the little girl we saw in the first three books. (The fans like this Ginny better, too.)

and the editor who reverted the edit thought that it would be significantly more difficult to revise the text to bring it up to standard than its value merited. Myself, I'm not sure I agree, but the latest variant does come closer to the professional level we are trying to reach. Chazz (talk) 03:32, 4 September 2008 (UTC)