Talk:Muggles' Guide to Harry Potter/Books/Deathly Hallows/Chapter 35

In this entry the editor states: "Dumbledore eventually had all three Hallows, he lost his head and tried to unite them, and in putting on the ring brought on the curse in his arm that was to claim his life within a year"

I believe the editor is incorrect in his assumption that Dumbledore tried to "unite them." How could he? Harry had the cloak at the time Dumbledore found the ring - he did not lose his head over thinking he could unite the three horcruxes. His reason for losing his head and not realizing there would probably be a curse on the ring is because for a flash of a moment he believed he could bring his younger sister back from the dead with the hallow. His remorse was great, as was his need to express it to his deceased sister. It had nothing to do with uniting the hallows.


 * The unnamed editor above is correct. While Dumbledore had heard, apparently correctly, that the one who could unite all three Hallows would in fact conquer Death, the only way to conquer Death is to accept it. "To the truly organized mind, Death is but the next great adventure." Dumbledore had accepted death at that point, and was not dismayed to learn that he had at best a year left, so uniting the Hallows was no longer something he would be interested in.
 * Dumbledore never had all three Hallows, although when he had the Ring, he did know where all three of them are, as Harry does when he walks, effectively unarmed, to meet Voldemort in the Forbidden Forest in the next chapter. It is perhaps worthy of note that Harry releases the Stone and returns the Wand to Dumbledore's tomb, thus deliberately losing one of the Hallows and quite possibly ending the power of the second.
 * I personally believe that the reason Dumbledore put the ring on his finger is because the Horcrux in the ring, like the locket Horcrux, was tempting him in order to attempt its own survival, and had led him to believe that by use of the Resurrection Stone he would be able to restore Ariana and Kendra to life. Dumbledore recognized the Stone for what it was, I am sure, and as the locket Horcrux read Ron's thoughts and acted to play against them, I am certain that the ring Horcrux would have read and played upon Dumbledore's thoughts. We won't, of course, ever know that; it is through Snape's memories that we learn what had happened, and Snape was not present when he put the ring on. Chazz (talk) 06:39, 2 August 2007 (UTC)


 * So why have I not corrected this? I haven't yet had the chance. There are a lot of other things wrong with it, and I would like to hold off on touching it until I have the necessary time to fix it right, and the actual book in front of me. Chazz (talk) 18:50, 3 August 2007 (UTC)

A great deal of the discussion in the "Greater Picture" section of this page is spent talking about Dumbledore's plan to have Snape become the true master of the Elder Wand by killing him, and how things might have unfolded if the plan was successful. However, that was not Dumbledore's true plan. He meant to die as the final master of the Elder Wand, with the allegiance of the wand not transferring to anybody at all when he died. If his plan had worked, Snape would have killed Dumbledore on Dumbledore's orders, which would not have been recognized by the Elder Wand as a defeat. The Elder Wand would never afterward have had an allegiance to any living wizard, and as a result its bloody and dangerous cycle would have been stopped forever. --Ferday (talk) 19:07, 26 August 2009 (UTC)
 * An intriguing theory, and one that should be in the Greater Picture as well... as you don't seem to have put it there in the five or more months since you posted this, I will add it myself. Chazz (talk) 01:21, 21 January 2010 (UTC)

Actually, Harry knew that Voldemort tried to use Lucius Malfoy's wand against him. He heard Voldemort mention it when their minds briefly connected while Voldemort was torturing Ollivander.