Talk:Modern Greek/LegacyLesson 10

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Very good try for the modern greek language, as is my native language i ll try to help you and correct if you have any mistake ;)

Infinitive
All sources on Greek grammar agree in that the infinitive does not exist in Modern Greek. The Greek word απαρέμφατο for infinitive is used only for ancient Greek. 70.52.2.61 19:14, 5 February 2006 (UTC)

Accent
Every Greek word has an accent on one syllable: Enklitic forms, articles, and other short words like και are unstressed. In fact, the accent on από is there for historical reasons, because the word is unstressed. 70.52.2.61 14:32, 6 February 2006 (UTC)

Hi 70.52.2.61 -- Thanks very much for your help! I edited the section about constructions with να a little more, to explain the aorist and progressive; I hope I didn't reintroduce any more mistakes :-) --Bcrowell 03:14, 7 February 2006 (UTC)

Introducing the letters
I think it would be easier to introduce the letters using the capital forms rather than the small ones (or both together). That way, many more of them look just like Latin letters, and have pretty much the same sounds: A, E, Z, I, K, M, N, O, T. --Macrakis 20:43, 8 February 2006 (UTC)


 * Hi -- Thanks for your help and suggestions! On this point, however, I disagree with you. Many of the lowercase letters are also immediately recognizable to English speakers, and since writing is almost all lowercase normally, it seems better to me to teach the lowercase letters first.--Bcrowell 07:07, 10 February 2006 (UTC)

The sound of kappa
You say that kappa has the same sound as in English. That is more or less true (though Greek k isn't aspirated) before the sounds a/o/u, but not before e/i, where Greek k is palatalized, almost like kj. So it is unfortunate that your first few words include και, which doesn't sound much like "keh" in English. If you must have κ in your first line of words, how about κάτω, κότα, άκου? --Macrakis 20:43, 8 February 2006 (UTC)
 * Good suggestion -- done! --Bcrowell 07:08, 10 February 2006 (UTC)

Greek words in English
I've added the comment about 10% to 20% of English words being of greek origin, you can see the Wikipedia article at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/English_words_of_Greek_origin and the ongoing discussion about this issue.

We need charts
There should be a section on noun declensions, and how each is declined along and there should be a big chart to describe regular 'ω' verbs and how they are conjugated in each mood, tense, and voice. But I don't know enough modern greek to do it.