Talk:Living in a Connected World/News, Evidence and Memory in Online Communications

Discussion
Hi Guys, Thought we better start this discussion page as the due date will be quickly upon us! Having looked at the topic a little closer, I think it would be best to start off with a summary of the different methods of online communications e.g. Social Media, Emails, Chat rooms etc. Then we could talk about how people use these platforms to share news and whether they are successful or not, and how they share their evidence. Finally we could talk about how long everything can be stored for online. (Once it's online, it's there for life after all) This is just a loose plan so if everyone could chip in and hopefully we can get started soon! JamieKingGinge (discuss • contribs) 12:34, 21 February 2017 (UTC)

Hey, That sounds like a great idea. Anyone know which exact powerpoints and readings refer to this topic? And we should probably set out a list of who covers what parts so it doesnt get messy. I really want to get this started and I don't think we can do that without a solid plan? BethIrish (discuss • contribs) 14:06, 24 February 2017 (UTC)

Just an update for the other group doing this project, I have decided to write about our internet footprint and the 'cookies' on the internet and the pros and cons of that. Unless some one from the other group is doing that? If so we could work together looking at different points or articles and how they support or contradict each other? Shall I start a bullet point system in this discussion page so everyone can see what everyone else is looking at? Just the main concepts? BethIrish (discuss • contribs) 12:23, 27 February 2017 (UTC)


 * That sounds good, I'm assuming that will be our introduction? I have also decided on the topic 'citizen journalism' exploring how the general public play an active role in the process of collecting, reporting, analysing and disseminating news and information. Also : I agree with making a set list of what people are covering. Hopefully people decide their topics soon! JayeRaiyatMedia (discuss • contribs) 14:09, 27 February 2017 (UTC)

Hi everyone. After doing thorough research into the readings and my class notes, I have found that the topic that will be ideal for me to write about is 'Evidence and the Unreliability of Online Sources.' I re-read all of the items on the reading list and found that I could use quite a few quotes to back up some of the information that I had already started to make notes on. Do you know what you will be writing about yet? For me, the hardest part was choosing my topic as the title of our Wikibook page covers a vast amount of areas. After you choose your topic it will become slightly easier to collect all of your information. Misslouisepark (discuss • contribs) 12:25, 28 February 2017 (UTC)

To the group in the other class, do you feel comfortable in starting to write your passages? Or are you still choosing your topics to write about? Misslouisepark (discuss • contribs) 12:28, 28 February 2017 (UTC)

Okay so as there is more than one group working on this chapter we really need to have an idea on who is working on what topic. I will be looking at the role of photojournalism and how that is a method of news and memory working together. JamieKingGinge (discuss • contribs) 12:34, 28 February 2017 (UTC)


 * As you have taken the citizen journalism topic maybe you should speak to the digital labour group as Greg suggested? JamieKingGinge (discuss • contribs) 12:41, 28 February 2017 (UTC)


 * Yes, I will get onto that once I have made a plan for my chapter. Has anyone else in our group figured out what topics they are doing? JayeRaiyatMedia (discuss • contribs) 12:48, 28 February 2017 (UTC)


 * indeed, i'm doing Authorship but i am a bit stuck with it at the moment, don't really know how to face it. AngelSpaniard (discuss • contribs) 12:56, 28 February 2017 (UTC)

Anyone in the other group is doing the same topic (Authorship)?? Any ideas? : : : : AngelSpaniard (discuss • contribs) 12:53, 28 February 2017 (UTC)

I hope there will be no clashes with the other group. I will make sure that all of our subjects are displayed on the main page of the Wikibook page. JayeRaiyatMedia (discuss • contribs) 13:05, 28 February 2017 (UTC) Misslouisepark (discuss • contribs) 12:57, 28 February 2017 (UTC)

Hi guys, for 'citizen journalism' I have decided that I am going to look at current affairs such as Trump's controversial immigration ban and look at how the general public have played an active role in the process of collecting, reporting, analysing and disseminating this news, especially in the difference of how people can broadcast events from their phone, and what affects this has. If you guys have any other news stories I could explore, please do tell me. JayeRaiyatMedia (discuss • contribs) 13:12, 28 February 2017 (UTC)

The topics that have been reserved have been added to the main page. I have created subheadings. This makes the page easier to navigate for us when we are contributing our work but also looks a lot more appealing. When you need to add in your topic as a subheading, all you do is put two equals signs '==' at either end of your title and that changes the layout. If you need help with that, feel free to ask me here. Misslouisepark (discuss • contribs) 13:18, 28 February 2017 (UTC)

The topic I'm going to talk about is how news has changed social media in the past few months/years (especially back home) and about the occupy movement and users like anonymous taking their platform to another level. Americankatie (discuss • contribs)


 * Hi Louise, What's the main topics you will be covering with relation to Evidence? As I'm also interested in covering Evidence. Perhaps I could do a sub chapter to yours? I would like to cover the memory/documentation of evidence and also in relation to social media? We are currently in our computer lab and we are finding it quite hard to choose our topics without getting involved in the ones already chosen. So if anyone else has any ideas on totally new topics you could tell us? otherwise some people will need to share chapters? ArianneStirling (discuss • contribs) 17:20, 28 February 2017 (UTC)

Hey fellas, the topic I am going to be contributing to is the recent changes in social media and what this means especially in the UK, while Katie focuses on America, I will also be talking about the occupy movement. Marshallcammy (discuss • contribs) 17:23, 28 February 2017 (UTC)

Hello everyone, the topic that I shall be contributing to is the rise of the government's use of technology to track people for their own safety and to find criminals via finding IP addresses and other such things. RossWithTheShirts (discuss • contribs) 17:29, 28 February 2017 (UTC)

Its a stretch but I'd also like to talk about Evidence with relation to social media and online in general too, such as how easy it is to access information and what effect this can have on our lives and other peoples lives. Sound ok? ArianneStirling (discuss • contribs) 17:31, 28 February 2017 (UTC)


 * Hi Arianne. Thank you for that information. I think it is going to be interesting that multiple people will be doing the same topic as there will be a lot more information added to the project. For my passage about Evidence, I am going to be focussing on the reliability, or lack thereof, of online sources. I will be examining how easy it is to get evidence with truth to back up information that can be found online. I am going to be including Wikipedia/Wikibooks as an example as something that can be unreliable and have questionable evidence as this is very relevant to our project. Do you think that would be alright for me to write about, keeping our topics the same but featuring different information.

Misslouisepark (discuss • contribs) 18:31, 28 February 2017 (UTC)


 * Yeah that sounds great, like you said if we are both providing information it will make it more interesting! I have done some notes and will post them up onto the page tomorrow at some point, I have an idea of how we could link our two areas of the topic but i'll go into more detail tomorrow and see what you think! Thanks! ArianneStirling (discuss • contribs) 23:33, 28 February 2017 (UTC)

Hi just wondering how we are going to go about doing the introduction? Are we all doing a little intro on our own parts? Also I added in a glossary section as Greg said people had done that in the past and it was a good idea.BethIrish (discuss • contribs) 17:16, 2 March 2017 (UTC)


 * Hi Louise, I noticed on your work that when you mentioned a specific person you linked their name to their wiki page, how do you do that? JayeRaiyatMedia (discuss • contribs) 14:31, 7 March 2017 (UTC)

Hi Jaye. After I had written Lanier's name in the passage, I clicked on the link option in the toolbar above the text box. It gives you the option to link a Wiki page or an external page so I copied and pasted the Lanier's Wikipedia page. I hope that helps! Misslouisepark (discuss • contribs) 19:57, 7 March 2017 (UTC)

Hi everyone! Just going to leave this link here for anyone who might find it useful when editing their wiki pages. https://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Using_Wikibooks/Wiki-Markup I know some of you wondered how to add pictures so if you go onto the link, notice the 'not enough information box' click the link which says 'Editing Wikitext' then that will take you into the more complicated info! Hope this helps! ArianneStirling (discuss • contribs) 15:06, 7 March 2017 (UTC)

Hi its arianne again! To whoever is writing with reference to the US government and social media I found this pdf source which you might find interesting/ helpful! http://www.au.af.mil/au/awc/awcgate/jfq/mayfield_strat_for_soc_media.pdf I know in the first couple of paragraphs they talk about how social media has affected the government! Hope it helps! ArianneStirling (discuss • contribs) 16:19, 7 March 2017 (UTC)

Hi guys, I have done part of the introduction, so feel free to add more! Also, I think we should have a deadline tomorrow for 3pm for the wikibook to be complete, so if some things are not complete or up to standards we can take it up on ourselves to amend what has not been done. Just to make sure our wiki book is on top form before the deadline! JayeRaiyatMedia (discuss • contribs) 19:13, 7 March 2017 (UTC)

I agree with Jaye, If everyone could finish off each of their sections and get it best we can it would be a lot better! I also added a bit to the introduction. I've covered everything I will be talking about in my section. All i have left to do is tidy it up such as change a couple of headings and the way the paragraphs are spaced out and maybe finalise my conclusion. Good luck everyone! ArianneStirling (discuss • contribs) 12:53, 8 March 2017 (UTC)

Hi everyone. I just want to say that it was a great team effort to get our project completed. It is great that everyone managed to get their work done in time for the 5pm deadline today. I think our Wikibook page looks fine, maybe a little lacking in the Introduction section. Remember that the evaluation for the Wikibooks project as a whole is due next week as well as the comments that are required of us on other student's evaluations. Misslouisepark (discuss • contribs) 22:38, 8 March 2017 (UTC)

Suggestion
From our nice friends at Wikimedia UK: http://thinking.is.ed.ac.uk/wir/2017/02/18/we-are-not-in-a-post-fact-world-wikipedia-vs-claims-of-fake-news/ GregXenon01 (discuss • contribs) 16:02, 28 February 2017 (UTC)

ALSO... Dahlgren, ‘Social Media and Political Participation’ in Fuchs and Sandoval (eds.) (2014) Critique, Social Media and the Information Society AND

Banaji and Buckingham (2013) ‘Young People Online and Offline’ in The Civic Web pp. 47-61

AND FINALLY... Jeff Goodwin & James M. Jasper (eds.) (2014) The Social Movements Reader: Cases and Concepts.

GregXenon01 (discuss • contribs) 17:15, 28 February 2017 (UTC)

Referencing: Hi guys, I have been looking at other groups wiki pages and we are slightly behind. In terms of referencing, I think you should all give this a read Citing Sources so we all have the same referencing style. JayeRaiyatMedia (discuss • contribs) 17:55, 7 March 2017 (UTC)

Contents
Hi guys, I thought it would be a good idea if we could all put our topics in a list here, and sign our name so we all know what we are doing and none of us clash!

- Citizen Journalism JayeRaiyatMedia (discuss • contribs) 14:37, 1 March 2017 (UTC)

- Evidence and the Unreliability of Online Sources Misslouisepark (discuss • contribs) 18:18, 1 March 2017 (UTC)

- Digital footprints. I'm also looking at the use of cookies and dataveillance. BethIrish (discuss • contribs) 12:56, 2 March 2017 (UTC)

-Evidence Available Online and in Social Media ArianneStirling (discuss • contribs) 11:54, 7 March 2017 (UTC)

- Evidence Available online. I'm essentially going to be looking at the way the government tracks IP addresses. RossWithTheShirts (discuss • contribs) 10:24, 8 March 2017 (UTC)