Talk:Living in a Connected World/Filter Bubbles and the Flow of Information

Meet the Team!
Hey guys if you could type your usernames into the table under the class you're in so we can see clearly who's all working on this, thanks! (I've already added some) Emmamackison (discuss • contribs) 12:34, 28 February 2017 (UTC)

Groups

 * Hi guys, I saw another group start off by just clarifying who's involved in the topic. I'm in the group "rEprazEnt" with, , and


 * It'd be good to know who else is involved so we can start discussing what to involve in the chapter, and how to tackle the subtopics, that way we can start allocating readings and subtopics as one big group and avoid any overlap :) CaitlinCarbury (discuss • contribs) 16:09, 23 February 2017 (UTC) CaitlinCarbury (discuss • contribs) 16:09, 23 February 2017 (UTC)


 * Fab start Caitlin, I am very much looking forward to explore our topic "Filter Bubbles and the Flow of Information" as I think it is so relevant when looking at Digital Media and Culture as a whole.Tamoloriiii (discuss • contribs) 23:11, 25 February 2017 (UTC)

Hi, we are in a group from CL03 called SpareAFiver, the members are,  ,  and

Sorry we've not been quicker in getting in touch. Do you have specific areas you'd like to cover and if so what are they? Once we've got it all divided up we can dive right in! LewisCollie (discuss • contribs) 14:25, 27 February 2017

,,  ,  ,  ,  ,  : Hi, that's alright. I'd love to be able to tell you what areas we'd like to cover, but we're not sure what readings come under this topic. I can't find any lectures under the title or any readings with those keywords. If anyone knows what the topic actually involves that'd be very helpful. CaitlinCarbury (discuss • contribs) 23:27, 27 February 2017 (UTC)


 * Hi. Here are some thoughts:
 * On first impression, "filter bubble" relates to something technical in that our internet usage obviously produces a lot of data which is subsequently used to moderate our online activity. We should probably nail that first. What it means in a wider conceptual view will give us our content and analysis. It might for instance correspond to the ideas of online presence, an 'always-on culture' and how big businesses and governments use the information you provide; filtering your searches to show you 'more of what you like' definitely suggests some notion of a pliant consumer (there's a discussion about democracy in here too). 'Impression management' (or even 'perception management') might come into this and there would be a lot to talk about there if we pursue that avenue. There's a lot of overlap with this stuff and I think what we've looked at so far will help us. Although I haven't read the vast majority of the things listed in the recommended reading a few things that jump out for me are:
 * On first impression, "filter bubble" relates to something technical in that our internet usage obviously produces a lot of data which is subsequently used to moderate our online activity. We should probably nail that first. What it means in a wider conceptual view will give us our content and analysis. It might for instance correspond to the ideas of online presence, an 'always-on culture' and how big businesses and governments use the information you provide; filtering your searches to show you 'more of what you like' definitely suggests some notion of a pliant consumer (there's a discussion about democracy in here too). 'Impression management' (or even 'perception management') might come into this and there would be a lot to talk about there if we pursue that avenue. There's a lot of overlap with this stuff and I think what we've looked at so far will help us. Although I haven't read the vast majority of the things listed in the recommended reading a few things that jump out for me are:


 * Dean, J. (2009) ‘Technology: The Promises of Communicative Capitalism’
 * McChesney, R. (2013) Digital Disconnect: How Capitalism Is Turning the Internet against Democracy.
 * Fuchs and Sandoval (eds.) (2014) Critique, Social Media and the Information Society

--CITIZEN LUC (discuss • contribs) 12:11, 28 February 2017 (UTC)

Terranova, Tiziana (2004) Network Culture: Politics for the Information Age. London: Pluto Press Turkle, Sherry (2011) Alone Together: Why We Expect More from Technology and Less from Each Other. New York: Perseus Books Vaidhyanathan, Siva (2011) Googlization of Everything (and why we should worry). Berkley, CA: University of California Press Some reading, and also this http://thinking.is.ed.ac.uk/wir/2017/02/18/we-are-not-in-a-post-fact-world-wikipedia-vs-claims-of-fake-news/ GregXenon01 (discuss • contribs) 15:44, 28 February 2017 (UTC)

Brief Overview

 * So, in a very brief overview are the topics along the lines of:
 * So, in a very brief overview are the topics along the lines of:

You seem to be at grips with the topic, so if you have any ideas on how to allocate the subjects we wouldn't mind. However, we will start looking into the things you have said and try and come to terms with it! CaitlinCarbury (discuss • contribs) 12:28, 28 February 2017 (UTC)
 * how companies filter information to us and for us; the consequences and debates that arise from this.
 * how we filter our own information to others and the debates surrounding this.
 * the topics within 'always-on' culture
 * how companies take our information?
 * how we share information in a digital age?

As a rough outline of the topics I think what you've suggested above is great. In my opinion, it's definitely along these lines we need to go. The wikiExercise #2 that we did might also come in useful if these ideas seem overwhelming - it's worth remembering that we already wrote about online visibility and data-trails which must be relevant to this! =)--CITIZEN LUC (discuss • contribs) 13:20, 28 February 2017 (UTC)


 * Hi Guys, like as has been said before I am also a bit lost as to which weekly topics and readings apply or do not to our wikibook topic. I see you have mentioned the 'always-on' culture as an key term to explore, but I was also wondering how what we studied in week 5 would be in exploring the concept of 'the flow of information'. I know this is a broad topic but just to gauge a start on what is applicable or not, so like was said above if we can discuss how to allocate sub-topics then that would be great. GemmaCampbell (discuss • contribs) 13:07, 28 February 2017 (UTC)
 * Hi Guys, like as has been said before I am also a bit lost as to which weekly topics and readings apply or do not to our wikibook topic. I see you have mentioned the 'always-on' culture as an key term to explore, but I was also wondering how what we studied in week 5 would be in exploring the concept of 'the flow of information'. I know this is a broad topic but just to gauge a start on what is applicable or not, so like was said above if we can discuss how to allocate sub-topics then that would be great. GemmaCampbell (discuss • contribs) 13:07, 28 February 2017 (UTC)

Questions and Queries
Hi Guys I think we should keep this sub section personally for any questions we have about the project specifically because I feel like everythings a bit all over the place and I am still personally struggling to make my way around this site, still trying to come to grips with it! Thanks :)Tamoloriiii (discuss • contribs) 15:20, 1 March 2017 (UTC) &#8593; Back to top

,,  ,  ,   ,  ,  Hey guys, if you hadn't already seen it there is a wiki page specifically about Filter bubbles that I'm sure will be of use. Filter bubble Harry1875 (discuss • contribs) 08:48, 2 March 2017 (UTC)

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Has anyone figured out how to add in photographs? I've tried and I just can't get my head around it/find an easy explanation! CaitlinCarbury (discuss • contribs) 15:53, 4 March 2017 (UTC)

I hadn't seen this before but thanks that's great!Tamoloriiii (discuss • contribs) 15:56, 6 March 2017 (UTC) Unfortunately not Caitlin but still searching a way... Tamoloriiii (discuss • contribs) 15:56, 6 March 2017 (UTC)

,,  ,  ,   ,  ,  Hi everyone, hope everyone's sections have been going well, great work it looks really good! Was just wondering if a) anyone knows if our individual pages are counted towards our overall grade and therefore if we need to jazz them up too? Also if anyone has any last minute reading suggestions on data trails that'd be great cause I still want to add a bit. Thanks! Tamoloriiii (discuss • contribs) 14:50, 8 March 2017 (UTC)


 * Hey, I believe we are not graded on our own individual sections, just on the wiki chapter as a whole and your own individual page. Then the majority of the % for this aspect of the assignment is based on you contrib and how much you have engaged.

I agree the page is looking good!Harry1875 (discuss • contribs) 14:54, 8 March 2017 (UTC)


 * Hey Harry thanks for replying so fast, oh really? Just started getting a bit worried because obviously the chapter is a lot in itself but when looking at the module handbook it says 'Wiki Exercise Portfolio and Wikibook Contribution- 60%' so I'm starting to think that actually might mean both? Should be fine though just feel I am a lot more focused on this right now than my individual page you know?Tamoloriiii (discuss • contribs) 15:14, 8 March 2017 (UTC)

,,  ,  ,   ,  ,  Help I think some of the pictures that went up have been taken away cause of copyright apparently I don't know where else I can get them :( ??


 * Thanks for sorting out this pics situatin!! Tamoloriiii (discuss • contribs) 16:53, 8 March 2017 (UTC)


 * I did my best with the time constraint, hope they're not too random. CaitlinCarbury (discuss • contribs) 16:57, 8 March 2017 (UTC)

Organisation
Hey everyone so there are a lot of us working on this so it would be best to get organized asap! If we could use the "add topic" button to add new ideas to keep everything clear and easy to read. I think we should discuss ideas and stuff under this subheading. What do you guys think? Emmamackison (discuss • contribs) 12:43, 28 February 2017 (UTC)


 * Hi Emma, I think this is a great idea as I am getting a bit confused amongst everything going on! Good shout.Tamoloriiii (discuss • contribs) 13:01, 28 February 2017 (UTC)


 * yeah, I think this is a good plan, it's also be really helpful if we started to add new headings for each new discussion so we don't get lost in information. CaitlinCarbury (discuss • contribs) 13:04, 28 February 2017 (UTC)


 * Thanks Tamara, it can get a bit crazy when we all write in one bit so I suggest we set our ideas out in bullet points like the lovely has already demonstrated above! For those who don't know, just add an asterisk at the start the start of a sentence to turn it into a bullet point...
 * like this


 * Thank for the tip Emma, I will be...
 * sure to use it in the future GemmaCampbell (discuss • contribs) 13:10, 28 February 2017 (UTC)

Hi guys, does the subtopics have to be done individually or can we work together in them? Because I was thinking that because a lot of the topics overlap we might be best to share certain topics between 2 people, split the readings and collab in creating the paragraphs? As to avoid repetition CaitlinCarbury (discuss • contribs) 13:20, 28 February 2017 (UTC)


 * Hey guys, just to say I have made a start to the section on the power of algorithms, I have put it under the main concepts section, I believe I have done it correctly however if I have not then please don't hesitate to correct me, feel free to change it yourself but please inform me if you do, just so I have the feedback for next time. It is by no means near finished but I made a start to it and felt it would be beneficial to let you all know. I was unsure whether or not we will have general discussions about the chapter under this section or whether we will have an entirely new section, I don't have a preference so just put this in here. --Harry1875 (discuss • contribs) 16:27, 1 March 2017 (UTC)




 * I hope everyone is well. Harry has posted here on how the work is progressing and now i'm following up in the same fashion. I've written an intro that makes explicit reference to one text. Don't worry about this; i'm setting out the bones of an idea that just gives some framework to the project - The Chomsky/Herman text references McChesney (who's mentioned in the further reading in the workpack) and the guy Eli Pariser who coined 'Filter bubble' references Lanier and Danah Boyd too so it all fits together surprisingly neatly. I have Pariser's book: Filter Bubble: What the Internet is Hiding From You downloaded as an ebook and I'd be happy to send it out attached in an e-mail (it's a tiny EPUB file). Time's getting on a bit but it's no doubt useful to look at. Good weekend, everyone! --CITIZEN LUC (discuss • contribs) 00:19, 4 March 2017 (UTC)



Hey guys, just to say the book is starting to look really good. Is there any sections I can help with at all? And just to say I've started spell checking the whole book but feel free to do so as well, the more checks the better. Harry1875 (discuss • contribs) 11:36, 6 March 2017 (UTC)



Help with it all. There's no such thing as a bad contribution. --CITIZEN LUC (discuss • contribs) 12:19, 6 March 2017 (UTC)

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 * just to say guys the page is coming along nicely, only thing is it lacks in colour and differentiation. In other words photos. If anyone is particularly good with inserting photos and could get some included that would be terrific, I have looked into it and still find myself stumped with how to do so. I have continued spellchecking every time I have seen content uploaded. Also I'm unsure as to whether or not the references worked in the 'Power of Algorithms' section so if anyone could give that a quick read over I'd appreciate it. Sorry if the spam of comments is annoying, just trying to contribute as much as possible. Harry1875 (discuss • contribs) 15:41, 7 March 2017 (UTC)


 * Hey Harry, I just successfully uploaded my first ever photo, actual buzzin. I can try and put one in for you if you tell me what you would like? CaitlinCarbury (discuss • contribs) 15:49, 7 March 2017 (UTC)
 * Hey Harry, I just successfully uploaded my first ever photo, actual buzzin. I can try and put one in for you if you tell me what you would like? CaitlinCarbury (discuss • contribs) 15:49, 7 March 2017 (UTC)



Hey Caitlin, the photo works great! If you could insert an image into the algorithm passage, an image of either the BP logo or Target logo that would be fab. Harry1875 (discuss • contribs) 15:58, 7 March 2017 (UTC)


 * Yeah that's no problem, I also added a filter bubble photo in the introduction, but if anyone feels it'd be better placed elsewhere just copy and paste the link into a different area of the text! CaitlinCarbury (discuss • contribs) 16:07, 7 March 2017 (UTC)
 * Yeah that's no problem, I also added a filter bubble photo in the introduction, but if anyone feels it'd be better placed elsewhere just copy and paste the link into a different area of the text! CaitlinCarbury (discuss • contribs) 16:07, 7 March 2017 (UTC)

,,  ,  ,  ,     Hi guys I'm so sorry I haven't been more active on here I've been swamped with other deadlines! If there's anything specific anyone thinks I should add that you have not had time to look up then I am happy to do the work.

,,  ,  ,  ,    To whomever sent the above message; you never signed your name so I'm not sure who it was. Just check to make sure that the category you put your name next to has been covered and if it hasn't been fully completed then add to it. If it has then just look over the whole chapter and ensure everything has been referenced correctly, and add any photos that you think are applicable. Hope that helps. Harry1875 (discuss • contribs) 13:14, 8 March 2017 (UTC)

,,  ,  ,  ,     Should we have a read of each other's parts and then say things about them?Emmamackison (discuss • contribs) 16:23, 8 March 2017 (UTC)


 * Emma I'm not actually quite sure, a lot of people in different groups were not sure if we were meant to discuss on on other peoples discussion pages if that's what you're meaning so I wouldn't worry too much about it! Tamoloriiii (discuss • contribs) 16:55, 8 March 2017 (UTC)

SpareAFiver: Heading Ideas
Hi guys,

We've been talking in our lab, and have come up with some ideas for sections of the book. If people see a topic that interests them especially stick your name next to it just to get started and we'll work on getting them all integrated once we have things written:


 * Bubbles we create for ourselves/bubbles that are created for us (by Social Networks)
 * Advertising/monetisation/marketization of information
 * Power of algorithms
 * Control of what we share (surveillance vs security vs privacy)
 * Data mining (could come under advertising)
 * Online isolation
 * Control over what we see
 * Different data trails = different experiences
 * Censorship and filter bubbles

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LewisCollie (discuss • contribs) 15:50, 28 February 2017 (UTC)


 * Hi, I added my name to one of the topics above, "Control of what we share", but i was just thinking that rather than work totally individually because a lot of the topics overlap with each other we should keep updating each other on what we are reading or writing and even then if people end up doing something similar they can collaborate and so we have an idea of what is going outside our individual work. The subtopics are a great start for heading in the right direction, thanks for taking the time to allocate and sort them. GemmaCampbell (discuss • contribs) 16:42, 28 February 2017 (UTC)
 * Hi, I added my name to one of the topics above, "Control of what we share", but i was just thinking that rather than work totally individually because a lot of the topics overlap with each other we should keep updating each other on what we are reading or writing and even then if people end up doing something similar they can collaborate and so we have an idea of what is going outside our individual work. The subtopics are a great start for heading in the right direction, thanks for taking the time to allocate and sort them. GemmaCampbell (discuss • contribs) 16:42, 28 February 2017 (UTC)




 * This whole thing will undoubtedly be collaborative. As we start filling the book with content we'll see other people pursuing the same directions and ideas! If a topic takes your interest (one topic, multiple topics, all of them)from the suggested list above then start writing in the book. If that sounds messy (and it might be at first) it will gradually coalesce. The book is just as easily edited, the work is always subject to change. If we do similar research to someone else then that's a good thing because at this point the worry is not about having too much information but not enough! Similar work we do could potentially be amalgamated and some stuff chopped out, some headings might combine together and some might be better joined with others - the topics are quite similar and there is overlap. This strikes me more as a problem around formatting and presentation, we could operate a policy of generally 'cleaning-up' as we go but really, we'll only see the full effect of this at the end when our fantastic wikibook is finished so it could therefore be left to the end. =) Peace. --CITIZEN LUC (discuss • contribs) 22:15, 28 February 2017 (UTC)

Hey I put my name beside "Different data trails = different experiences" because it was the last one available but I don't actually really understand what it means and would really appreciate if someone could explain it to me even briefly? Sorry to be such a pain I just dont really get the topic but I will very soon I'm sure, thanks.Tamoloriiii (discuss • contribs) 19:44, 2 March 2017 (UTC)

Hey the general idea behind that topic is comparing the contrast between different people's experience on the internet based on their search history. If you look at the example I gave on "The power of algorithm" tab on the our book, about the two different searches on BP it is focusing in more detail along those lines. However if you'd prefer not to do that topic and have a particular interest in another one I'm sure everyone would be happy to divide a topic with you. Ideally we will all be helping each other. Hope this helps. Harry1875 (discuss • contribs) 10:45, 3 March 2017 (UTC)

Hey Harry sorry I'm just seeing this! Thanks so much that's very helpful! I don't want to cause too much disruption so I will just try and work on that but you're right we'll all be helping each other regardless :) Tamoloriiii (discuss • contribs) 17:01, 6 March 2017 (UTC)

love the selfie you uploaded to your section Emma CaitlinCarbury (discuss • contribs) 16:02, 8 March 2017 (UTC)

Thank you, I'm giving you my serious face Emmamackison (discuss • contribs) 16:14, 8 March 2017 (UTC)

Referencing
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Okay guys, I've figured out how references work on this site. You don't need to do anything with the reference section at the bottom of the page, and all you have to do is remove the spaces from these triangle brackets to make a reference< /ref>. If you do it right,. All you need to do is copy the brackets and remove the space, then put the citation you're using in between the brackets like this.

ZachIsWack (discuss • contribs) 16:25, 28 February 2017 (UTC)




 * Hey guys, I noticed that contributions to the book have been made, and it's looking good! However, a few names have been dropped without proper referencing, so I think it'd be a good idea if whoever wrote those piece could go ahead and reference them using the method Zach has displayed above. CaitlinCarbury (discuss • contribs) 15:35, 4 March 2017 (UTC)



Referencing is needed and will be done in due course: it's housekeeping. What's more important is that we need contributions. Actual stuff. --CITIZEN LUC (discuss • contribs) 09:08, 6 March 2017 (UTC)




 * Hey guys, for some reason references were showing up in the glossary header so I switched the headers around and it appears to have worked. I think that's it fixed, but if I've made a mistake then feel free to correct me. CaitlinCarbury (discuss • contribs) 19:35, 6 March 2017 (UTC)


 * That's it working now, good work! Harry1875 (discuss • contribs) 13:56, 7 March 2017 (UTC)

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Useful Resources and Links
Hi guys, thought it would be helpful to us all if we fired any useful stuff we find on the talk page. There's a good chance you might stumble across something during your research that might not be relevant to your subtopic but might help someone else! LewisCollie (discuss • contribs) 12:28, 3 March 2017 (UTC)

Facebook Using Artificial Intelligence to Help Suicidal Users
http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/gadgets-and-tech/news/facebook-ai-help-suicidal-users-artificial-intelligence-mental-health-social-network-a7607241.html LewisCollie (discuss • contribs) 12:28, 3 March 2017 (UTC)

The Dark Web
 * I found this Ted Talks video which might be useful to you :)
 * https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Va07q3HFEZQ&feature=youtu.be
 * CaitlinCarbury (discuss • contribs) 13:25, 5 March 2017 (UTC)
 * CaitlinCarbury (discuss • contribs) 13:25, 5 March 2017 (UTC)


 * This popped up on my newsfeed today, it's brief but may be relevant
 * http://www.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/article/39176828/us-psychologists-claim-social-media-increases-loneliness CaitlinCarbury (discuss • contribs) 12:56, 6 March 2017 (UTC)

Hey everyone, seems really basic but I found this short vid explaing filter bubbles on youtube and I thought it'd be worth sharing! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KaieASPNKXQ  This one's a bit longer but has really good info too https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EsjQLB_jTBA Tamoloriiii (discuss • contribs) 16:02, 6 March 2017 (UTC)

Adding Pictures and Linking to Other Sites Or Articles
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Hey everyone, yesterday I asked the folks in the Reading Room about uploading pictures to our chapter as well as linking to other articles or Wiki*edia sites within our chapter. The answers I received are very informative and can be found here: https://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Wikibooks:Reading_room/Assistance#Linking_to_other_Wiki.2Aedia_sites_and_a_few_other_questions ZachIsWack (discuss • contribs) 16:18, 5 March 2017 (UTC)

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Hey everyone whoever did Manufacturing Consent your photo isn't showing up, just thought I would let you know before the deadline :)

Glossary


I know we're probably all busy with the deadline approaching, but it'd be good if we could all add words from our work to the glossary. I've already made a start, but the more we can get the better! Again feel free to make any changes to definitions I've given, there's probably better ways to word the things that I've produced. CaitlinCarbury (discuss • contribs) 19:34, 7 March 2017 (UTC)

A little joke related to our subject matter
Hey guys, why was the 2004 US Democratic Presidential Candidate so good at making music? He really knew his Al Gore Rhythms. ZachIsWack (discuss • contribs) 15:41, 8 March 2017 (UTC)


 * Hahaha, how much does a hipster weigh?
 * An insta-gram.
 * Thank-you and goodnight CaitlinCarbury (discuss • contribs) 16:01, 8 March 2017 (UTC)
 * Thank-you and goodnight CaitlinCarbury (discuss • contribs) 16:01, 8 March 2017 (UTC)


 * Why does Donald Trump take Xanax?
 * For His-panic attacks!!

Good work everyone. --CITIZEN LUC (discuss • contribs) 18:17, 8 March 2017 (UTC)

Thank-you and goodbye
It's been lovely working with you all, 10/10 best wikibook on the web. Cheerio CaitlinCarbury (discuss • contribs) 16:59, 8 March 2017 (UTC)

Thank you good bye Tamoloriiii (discuss • contribs) 17:00, 8 March 2017 (UTC)