Talk:Issues in Interdisciplinarity 2020-21/Truth in censorship of women's bodies on social media

Meetings/contents
- 20/11/2020: first Zoom meeting, brainstorming ideas for topics/titles

- 22/11/2020: Zoom meeting, agreement on title (--> truth in censorship of women's bodies on social media) (the first page we set up got deleted so we had to create a new one)

- 26/11/2020 : Zoom meeting : after few days of brainstorming and gathering information to delimit the subject, we talked about the disciplines we could linked to this topic and how we should do it.Then we need to plan a structure.

-30/11/2020 : Zoom meeting : Choice of disciplines we will be talking about : (History), Social Studies, Economics, Law. Division of the tasks.

-5/12/2020: Zoom meeting: agreement on order of disciplines and further planning of content, discussion about research progress

- 9/12/2020 : Zoom meeting to talk about our first drafts and how they work together

-10/12/2020: Zoom meeting, planning of conclusion and shortening of texts, discussion about tensions between disciplines

- 12/12/2020 : Zoom meeting : merging of the conclusion's drafts and shortening of the introduction, shortening of the rest of the text

Conversation on Introduction
Hey guys! I just posted the first draft of the introduction! I do think you'll have to each add a sentence so that it connects to your parts :). I didn't form a question yet, and I definitely need to include more about the fact that we are talking about truth. It would be great if we could each participate in the making of the introduction so don't be afraid to edit it! :)

Uclqrdi (discuss • contribs) 14:56, 7 December 2020 (UTC)Uclqrdi

Hey ! I really liked what you did for the introduction with the numbers and the definition of censorship !! I am going to try to find a way to show what disciplines we are going to talk about (so that then we can then briefly describe our points if we have enough space) and then I'll link it with truth if you want ! Plus, I was thinking of a question like "how truth is altered in different discipline because of censorship?" Of course it's just a suggestion but let me know what you think !! Basc0024 (discuss • contribs) 16:49, 7 December 2020 (UTC)

I also really like what you wrote for the introduction!! I think it's good that it kind of gives a logical intro to how this issue that we are addressing even emerges. We might have to be careful with the definition of censorship from the person you are talking about, since he only addresses censorship when it comes to "Speech and writing", and our topic refers mostly to pictures and the graphic display of "women's bodies". I also made a few minor changes in the wording, hope you don't mind! Undercoveraustrian (discuss • contribs) 20:02, 8 December 2020 (UTC)Undercoveraustrian

Conversation on Sociology part
So guys, I posted my first draft of my paragraph. at this point it is very "all over the place" and waaaayy to long, but at least it might be something you can work with that gives you an idea of what I found during my research. Sorry if there are typos and mistakes or whatever, but it's quite late and I did it quickly so you'd still get it today.

But as we said, we will shorten everything down and try to link it together once we have a better draft of the text! Undercoveraustrian (discuss • contribs) 14:53, 7 December 2020 (UTC)Undercoveraustrian

Hi undercoveraustrian ! I just read your text and I really like it however we should be careful because I feel like we are both saying some similar things. Of course those are only our first drafts so I think that's not a real problem for the moment ! Basc0024 (discuss • contribs) 16:49, 7 December 2020 (UTC)

Hi! I just went over what you wrote and did a quick spelling and grammar check to correct the few mistakes. I know it's the first draft but I really like your paragraph. However, I do think you need to include more case studies to apply the things you say to the real world. But overall, it's a really good job! Uclqrdi (discuss • contribs) 10:25, 7 December 2020 (UTC)Uclqrdi

Thank you! Yes, I will include more case studies and also talk about them in a bit more detail, just hadn't decided which ones I want to use (because there are a few) at the point where I wrote the text!:) Undercoveraustrian (discuss • contribs) 20:02, 8 December 2020 (UTC)Undercoveraustrian

Conversation on Law
Hey guys!! As I posted my first draft yesterday don't hesitate to tell me your points of view on it ! Basc0024 (discuss • contribs) 16:49, 7 December 2020 (UTC)

Hey! I love what you wrote! We should maybe be a bit careful with your first paragraph as it may be similar to the "Sociology" part, as it tackles the same notions and concepts. Plus, I really like the Rupi Kaur study case, it adds context and makes it really easy to understand the message that we want to pass on. Good job! :) Uclqrdi (discuss • contribs) 15:18, 8 December 2020 (UTC)Uclqrdi

Hey ! Yes I totally agree with you but I think it need to be tackled on the law part as it is the only time I can really cite the "official" policy. I'll have to discuss it with undercoveraustrian !! Basc0024 (discuss • contribs) 18:55, 8 December 2020 (UTC)

Converstation on Conclusion
I posted my draft for the conclusion on the main page, feel free to let me know what you think! Once the other two drafts are up we can start merging them together/combine our ideas :) Undercoveraustrian (discuss • contribs) 11:00, 11 December 2020 (UTC)Undercoveraustrian

Hi! I just read your draft for the conclusion, I think it's almost perfect. You went over everything we need to mention in this conclusion. I would maybe suggest for the law part of it, to emphasize that the law varies not only depending on the content but also on who the person is(famous or non-famous). It's just a suggestion and I'm sure we'll come up with a conclusion that pleases us all by merging our work. Anyway, it's a really good job, well done! :) Uclqrdi (discuss • contribs) 19:20, 11 December 2020 (UTC)Uclqrdi

Hi undercoveraustrain, i read your first draft on the conclusion and I really liked the way you described each disciplinary approach and the need to embrace interdisciplinarit ! As we said, those are key points we need to include in our conclusion ! However I think your first sentence might be a bit confusing because it might seem as if we were talking about why social media use censorship whereas we are mostly focusing on the impact this censorship have. That was just a quick opinion I wanted to express but of course this is only a first draft ! Basc0024 (discuss • contribs) 20:08, 11 December 2020 (UTC)

Although, I just posted my draft too ! Hope you don't mind undercoveraustrian, I used some of your phrasings which I found very efficient ! Basc0024 (discuss • contribs) 20:08, 11 December 2020 (UTC)

Hey guys! I just posted my conclusion as well, let me know what you think about it, I'll be happy to read your feedback. And let's talk about merging them together during our next zoom meeting! :) Uclqrdi (discuss • contribs) 21:51, 11 December 2020 (UTC)Uclqrdi

drafts for conlusion
draft 1

Examining the fact that women’s bodies are being censored on social media through the lens of different disciplines, various explanations of the truth that this phenomenon displays can be devised. While sociologists would not only argue that the censorship reflects issues within society itself, but also that this censorship constructs an image and expectations of the woman’s body in society that are not entirely authentic, an economist would use a more quantitative approach, explaining the situation to be a result of a business model aimed at increasing the profit of companies. Turning to law, which on the one hand presents us with guidelines that in some cases are merely being followed, however, it also becomes evident that there are real grey areas with respect to which kind of content is approved for display on social media, leaving us with the question of how the platforms choose to interpret these guidelines they are given, and why. As the truth might be situated somewhere in the middle of these explanations, an interdisciplinary approach is necessary to create an authentic illustration of the factors leading to the censorship of women’s bodies on social media. Undercoveraustrian (discuss • contribs) 12:09, 12 December 2020 (UTC)Undercoveraustrian

draft 2

Exploring the censorship of women’s bodies on social media, it appears clear that a mono-disciplinary approach is not sufficient. On one hand, censorship seems to be needed but not adapted and too vague. On the other hand, while sociologists would argue that censorship is creating sexualization and discrimination, reflecting some of our society’s issues, economists would say that it could be used as a tool to make a profit. Thus, it is apparent that the way the law is regulated causes social issues and that those social issues are actually not taken into account by companies whose only goal is to make a profit. The truth which deducts from those policies is actually distorted by its vagueness, its social roots, and the economic purpose of the companies behind that. Basc0024 (discuss • contribs) 12:10, 12 December 2020 (UTC)

draft 3

By analyzing the censorship of women’s bodies on social media, it became clear that one discipline can not give us any answer on why it exists or on its true impact. What also came out of our study is that tension is evident between the different disciplines’ lenses that we used to analyze the issue. A sociologist would consider censorship of women’s bodies on social media as being guilty of misrepresenting women’s bodies in its truthfulness. On the other hand, the law makes it obvious that some censorship is needed. However, the laws regarding censorship are often varying which makes it difficult to understand what is said to be threatening. Lastly, from an economical point of view, censorship’s existence in the social media business can be viewed as a tool for companies to achieve their primary goal: make a profit by not risking « shocking » an audience. The different approaches of sociology, law, and economics, can help comprehend the tensions regarding the phenomena that censorship of women’s bodies truly is. Uclqrdi (discuss • contribs) 12:11, 12 December 2020 (UTC)Uclqrdi