Talk:Issues in Interdisciplinarity 2020-21/Power in Plastic Surgery

Wikibooks Chapter title
DISCLAIMER: The title of this Wikibooks chapter is Power in Cosmetic Surgery, but we have had some trouble changing it. While we were able to change it in the Issues in "Interdisciplinarity 2020-21" page, we have not been able to change it in this page. When we told our seminar leader, he suggested we let the graders know through the discussion page. --Cannedtomatoes (discuss • contribs) 13:49, 11 December 2020 (UTC)

I think I finally managed to change the title of the main page, but for example, the discussion page is still called "Talk:Issues in Interdisciplinarity 2020-21/Power in Plastic Surgery ". I will try to change it as well, but I am keeping this disclaimer in the discussion just in case there are other incoherences along with the Wikibook chapter. --Cannedtomatoes (discuss • contribs) 13:47, 12 December 2020 (UTC)

Summary of today's meeting 04/12
After meeting a couple of days ago, we decided that we should start researching about the topic without a clear direction, and then discuss what we had found in the meeting we had today. In today's meeting, the main thing we discussed was the structure of our Wikibooks chapter and the disciplines we wanted to discuss concerning cosmetic surgery. Even though every member of the group had gathered information from various disciplines, we had no problem agreeing about what to discard and what to include in the chapter, as we all had a very similar vision about its direction. There were several disciplines that we had to get rid of because of the word count, such as ethics, new technologies or economy, but agreed on trying to mention them on the "interdisciplinary tensions" section. We also agreed on adding two final paragraphs about the power dynamics and the interdisciplinary tensions in this felid, so that we refer to those key components of the chapter explicitly. After today's meeting, each one of us will do their independent research on their discipline in shared documents so that we can all see the approach each member is taking, and in a few days, we will share our progress and work on the common paragraphs together. Cannedtomatoes (discuss • contribs) 02:35, 5 December 2020 (UTC)


 * I have just added the notes we discussed in Friday's meeting, outlining the basic structure we are aiming for. Based on these notes (that we created all together), we are now working on writing the corresponding sections for 'Medicine', 'Psychology' and 'Sociology'. Bienchen4338 (discuss • contribs) 11:11, 6 December 2020 (UTC)

I believe that a part of psychology about doctors not being qualified to evaluate the psychological risks of cosmetic surgery patient could be a moved and emphasized in interdisciplinary tensions section. Also, the negative influence on patients' mental health contradicts social benefits cosmetic enhancements provide, which can also be discussed in the interdisciplinary tensions section. Obsolete obscurantism (discuss •

contribs) 18:49, 8 December 2020 (UTC)

Summary of today's meeting 08/12
During today's meeting, we shared and read each others' contributions covering different disciplines and uploaded them to our Wikibook page as well as discussed their contents and topic for interdisciplinary discussion. Also, we decided how we are going to write the introduction, interdisciplinary tensions and conclusion sections and agreed on when we will have our next meeting and the tasks we will do in the meantime. Obsolete obscurantism (discuss • contribs) 19:00, 8 December 2020 (UTC)

I just divided the psychology section because, even though the information and the text flow perfectly fine, I feel like it would be easier and more pleasant to the reader to find that section organised into paragraphs. Let me know if you agree with my decision and feel free to restructure them. --Cannedtomatoes (discuss • contribs) 21:07, 8 December 2020 (UTC)


 * I completely agree. I think this new structure has improved the general presentation of the section and effectively highlights the different perspectives/points I am trying to communicate. It appears to be more organised and is less intimidating than simply a huge chunk of text. Thank you for making these changes. (Bienchen4338 (discuss • contribs) 10:38, 9 December 2020 (UTC))

I just tried changing the title of the WikiBook Chapter from plastic surgery to Cosmetic surgery as we discussed, and I manage to do it in the "Issues in Interdisciplinarity 2020-21" page, but I cannot find where to change it in our page. I will keep trying to do so but if anyone knows how to do it, it would be a lot of help if you change it. --Cannedtomatoes (discuss • contribs) 12:58, 9 December 2020 (UTC)


 * I think what you have to do is click on "edit" in the "Issues in Interdisciplinarity 2020-21" page and change the name within the brackets as well (from plastic surgery to cosmetic surgery). However, when I tried this the preview made the link appear red - as though there is no page that will be linked to the "Issues in Interdisciplinarity 2020-21" page. Im not sure whether this means that we have to create a completely new page. I will continue trying to figure it out - but unfortunately I can not help any further at the moment. Bienchen4338 (discuss • contribs) 17:04, 9 December 2020 (UTC)

Within the 'medicine' section, a really good point was made about how surgeons perceive "ethic correction" and their understanding of how western ideals are interpreted differently in different cultural contexts. While this is relevant to the 'medicine' section, I believe it may be even more impactful and important to mention, when we discuss power dynamics. I have therefore taken the liberty to move it to our combined notes, so we can incorporate it into the 'power dynamics' section. Let me know if you agree with this or if you feel this is a crucial part that should remain in the 'medicine' paragraph. Bienchen4338 (discuss • contribs) 21:00, 9 December 2020 (UTC)


 * Thank you for pointing this out, I agree with you and I feel like having the information organised into paragraphs will make our Chapter more fluent and comfortable to read. --Cannedtomatoes (discuss • contribs) 13:55, 12 December 2020 (UTC)

I have just added the introduction. As we discussed in our meeting, I briefly mentioned everything we are going to talk about in the Wikibooks Chapter, while trying to keep it concise because of the word count. There are some sentences I am not quite sure they work, for example, the one that starts with "In this Wikibooks chapter...", so if you have any suggestions or changes you feel might improve its quality please feel open to do them. --Cannedtomatoes (discuss • contribs) 12:42, 10 December 2020 (UTC)

Summary of today's meeting 13/12
Yesterday during the meeting, we added the rest of paragraphs (power dynamics and interdisciplinary tensions) to our draft in google document. We realized we were more than 200 words over the word limit, so we started cutting down words but at the same time we really tried to keep the main points, so that we would still have the same arguments, which appeared to be a truly difficult task. However, by today morning we managed to cut down enough words and now we will be adding references. Obsolete obscurantism (discuss • contribs) 12:01, 14 December 2020 (UTC)


 * We have now added all of the referencing in Vancouver style, making sure there are no repeated citations. With our word count below 1200, we are now doing some last fine tuning, to ensure we are happy with the final document. (Bienchen4338 (discuss • contribs) 14:23, 14 December 2020 (UTC))