Talk:Issues in Interdisciplinarity 2020-21/Media and Politics in the Dreyfus Affair

--Bascrzm (discuss • contribs) 13:49, 14 December 2020 I am really struggling to export the front cover of "La Libre Parole" that we put on the drive can someone please help?

Log Book: -- --Bascrzm (discuss • contribs)

This is a brief summary of our the conduction of our Project:

We met every Friday to make sure we were all heading in the same direction and initially to choose our topic. We worked on google drive and made our modifications there: (we used 3 docs for practicality reasons when we made major changes with the links displayed as follows in chronological order)

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1I75E20Fhfr46kXzHHDCzJ_Iy2YUrjZnNNUXagPN2giU/edit?usp=sharing

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Zsc9YE8XzjNQKY07zdZ5vvXMVmgoksgKQ2RfDPTcDng/edit?usp=sharing

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ia500vsrzuUTKdYlfmiM53IMxgAho5sJpyZPdmdewhk/edit?usp=sharing

--Uclqjh0 (discuss • contribs) 21:46, 12 December 2020 (UTC)(see editing history inside the google docs)

Juliette and Roxane called on Saturday December 12th to talk about the structure and create a to-do list for the weekend:

--Uclqjh0 (discuss • contribs) 21:46, 12 December 2020 (UTC) Ok I ended up rewriting the dreyfus summary... a lot less words for the word count; I think we'll have to edit from each paragraph some words to make it more succinct

Victoire and Juliette called Saturday night to talk about the politics part and to discuss about what was left to do: the referencing.

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--Bascrzm (discuss • contribs) 11:00, 12 December 2020 (UTC)I think we should emphasize more the role of each discipline and their clash rather than having a large part of our project narrating the historical facts that are not self sufficient to analyze the tension between Media and Politics. If you guys are ok with it maybe we could summarize a bit the part of the dreyfus affair and put it in the Introduction and develop more the parts on each discipline?

--Uclqjh0 (discuss • contribs) 21:46, 12 December 2020 (UTC)I cut the dreyfus affair as much as possible, but maybe for the word count Im going to have to make it into a four sentence summary...

I also added an "ouverture" on the movie J'accuse which would be interesting to have a look at if you have time! --Uclqjh0 (discuss • contribs) 21:46, 12 December 2020 (UTC) I like that --Uclqjh0 (discuss • contribs) 23:28, 12 December 2020 (UTC) Hi Roxanne, I dont think we can keep the movie part, so maybe we can put a picture? were 300 words over word count...without the movie bit were at 268 words over.

please add your references! :) --Uclqjh0 (discuss • contribs) 21:46, 12 December 2020 (UTC)Yes! doing it today and tomorrow, I put my references so far on the google doc but i'll add them onto here.

I think we should think about the interdisciplinary approach together. i think its something that has to be all three of us on it, what do you think? I wrote something but Im not sure how I feel about it.

--Uclqjh0 (discuss • contribs) 23:35, 12 December 2020 (UTC) I orginally wrote this but I deleted most of it on the doc... "This friction between politics and media requires an interdisciplinary view as this conflict requires a binary approach to history. This historical conflict englobes many issues because of the struggle between falsity from the government’s part with the media’s strive for truth challenges the notion of power in France at the time. The struggle between false accusations and evidence versus a man’s innocence challenged France as a whole, historically defining the rest of the republic’s trajectory. However, even though this historical event involves conflicts on truth, evidence, and power, the main issue remains history because its effect was the cause of the dispute between media and politics. The antisemetic history of France was the root of the problem and discord between public opinion and political power."

--Uclqjh0 (discuss • contribs) 23:35, 12 December 2020 (UTC) Ok were 335 words above now. taking out the movie part will make it 289.

--Uclqjh0 (discuss • contribs) 21:46, 12 December 2020 (UTC) Vic tell me when youre ready for politics.

--Hermes2012 (discuss • contribs) ok juliette i just finished the pokitics part so i'm just trying to finish finding all our references so if any of you had one she didn't put on the google doc send it to me

--Uclqjh0 (discuss • contribs) 23:32, 12 December 2020 (UTC) I think we got all the ones we used, just need to add this one I found tonights ill send it on google sounds good

--Uclqjh0 (discuss • contribs) 23:32, 12 December 2020 (UTC) hello hello, I really like this sentence victoire wrote and i think we should include it; roxanne maybe in your part? "media undertook its role as the 4th power, significantly influencing people and forcing change."

--Bascrzm (discuss • contribs) 15:21, 13 December 2020 (UTC) HI guys! good job for the politics part really like it :) I was thinking it could be a bit more symmetrical to what i did for media; by this I mean more about the ROLE of politics rather than its clash because we already tackle this in the last paragraph? try and keep it more focused on just politics for now. I suggest looking at speeches or responses of the former President or the Parliement Deputy Jean Jaures who had an important role in dealing politically with the affair... tell me what you think!

--Uclqjh0 (discuss • contribs) 17:44, 13 December 2020 (UTC) Hi, I just finished the politics. I took in account what you said, and I think its more political than before. Let me know what you think :). I was not able to find a speech... it seems like most of the sources are very media centered, and regarding politics, they spoke more about the political impact rather than the political action taken...

--Bascrzm (discuss • contribs)19:44, 13 December 2020 (UTC) that is perfect thank you! I read it and I think it adds a really good input on what we are trying to express concerning politics! thanks again for taking the time to look.

--Bascrzm (discuss • contribs) 21:19, 13 December 2020 (UTC) Victoire, it has come to my attention that you have displayed only 1 source, is it because the others are somewhere else on the google drive? could you also put it in Vancouver like we both did thank you!

--Uclqjh0 (discuss • contribs) 17:44, 13 December 2020 (UTC) Hello, I have reduced the word count because that is the criteria. I have done my best for us to meet all of the requirements. I know that I may have taken out some things that you wouldv'e liked to include. Should you feel that there are better words to use without increasing the word count, please let the rest of us know. I have attempted to keep the spirit of what everyone has said while meeting this requirements. The goal of this assignement is to be succinct and synthesize, so we can not afford to be overly verbose. Let me know what you think.

--Bascrzm (discuss • contribs) 23:35, 13 December 2020 i have been working on this too, Victoire would you mind telling us your opinion and finalizing your referencing as we are close to submitting the paper now??

--Bascrzm (discuss • contribs) 13:49, 14 December 2020: If everyone is happy as the page as it is we can submit it!

--Bascrzm (discuss • contribs) 14:09, 14 December 2020: Victoire, we did last touch ups with Juliette and added the 2 pictures, we are tuning it in now if you are happy with it.

--Uclqjh0 (discuss • contribs) 21:46, 12 December 2020 (UTC)

Google doc history:
Doc: The Dreyfus Affair: A historical clash between media and politics

December 12, 11:34 PM Victoire Moisset

December 12, 10:45 PM Victoire Moisset

December 12, 8:01 PM Juliette Hart

December 12, 7:23 PM Victoire Moisset

December 12, 6:34 PM Juliette Hart

Mar Rox December 12, 4:51 PM

Mar Rox December 11, 7:05 PM

Victoire Moisset December 11, 3:17 PM

Juliette Hart December 11, 12:23 PM

Victoire Moisset December 11, 10:20 AM

THURSDAY December 10, 7:24 PM Juliette Hart

Mar Rox December 10, 3:51 PM

Juliette Hart December 10, 2:48 PM

Juliette Hart December 10, 2:47 PM

Victoire Moisset December 10, 11:11 AM

Doc: political part dreyfus

December 12, 10:06 PM Victoire Moisset

December 12, 8:34 PM Juliette Hart

Victoire Moisset December 12, 6:34 PM

Juliette Hart December 12, 6:34 PM

Doc: The Dreyfus Affair: A Historical Clash Between Media and Politics 1

YESTERDAY December 11, 12:22 PM Victoire Moisset

TUESDAY December 8, 2:32 PM Juliette Hart

December 7, 7:25 PM Victoire Moisset Juliette Hart

December 7, 4:39 PM Juliette Hart

December 7, 3:59 PM Juliette Hart

December 7, 2:08 PM Mar Rox

SUNDAY December 6, 7:42 PM

Victoire Moisset December 6, 10:53 AM

Juliette Hart December 5, 5:50 PM

Juliette Hart December 4, 11:39 PM

Mar Rox December 4, 5:13 PM

Juliette Hart Victoire Moisset December 4, 12:44 PM

Mar Rox November 30, 5:25 PM

Victoire Moisset November 30, 4:54 PM

Juliette Hart November 30, 4:04 PM

Juliette Hart November 30, 4:04 PM

First draft: History and Evidence: Media and politics in Dreyfus Affair

December 12, 11:30 PM Juliette Hart

THURSDAY

December 10, 7:06 PM Roxane MARTINON

LAST WEEK

December 4, 12:24 PM Roxane MARTINON

NOVEMBER

November 28, 12:48 AM Roxane MARTINON

November 27, 7:40 PM Juliette Hart

November 27, 1:50 PM Roxane MARTINON Juliette Hart Victoire Moisset

November 27, 12:30 PM Roxane MARTINON Juliette Hart

November 24, 6:12 PM Juliette Hart

November 24, 4:53 PM Juliette Hart

November 23, 9:03 PM Juliette Hart

November 23, 8:58 PM Juliette Hart