Talk:Geometry for Elementary School

California curriculum guidelines
The California curriculum guidelines could be used to help organize the book.  Kinglag 00:05, 5 March 2006 (UTC)

Adding illustrations
I added some images to "our tools" and "constructing equilateral triangle". I released them to the public domain. I'm completely new to this, so if I messed anything up, let me know or revert to the previous version. I'd like to add more illustrations.

I made the compass and ruler as 3D Blender scenes, so it's easy to make new 2D images. I forgot to add a summary of my edits. I probably should have discussed this before going ahead? Any suggestions for improvements or corrections of mistakes are welcome.

Mcgill 10:35, 05 September 2006 (UTC)


 * I added more diagrams to some chapters. A lot of this book will need drastic simplification if it's going to be understood by kids. I've almost finished the diagrams for "Constructing a triangle" - drawing them in autoCAD was difficult enough for me, getting a child to draw them on paper could be seen as a form of mental torture. Need much clearer explanations or maybe consider omitting the chapter. Mcgill 18:31, 7 September 2006 (UTC)


 * To illustrate my previous point


 * The diagram for "Constructing a Triangle" would look like this:
 * [[image:GEOM constr temp.png]]
 * (where AB is one side and I carelessly forgot to label the remaining vertex;) I intend to break the construction into three stages, erasing the construction lines after each stage. Hopefully that might simplify it a bit.
 * Mcgill 19:45, 7 September 2006 (UTC)


 * The triangle construction has been simplified a bit. - Mcgill 20:47, 11 September 2006 (UTC)

Copyright violation from another site
Hi, i'd like to report that the page linked here and some other related pages have been copied from this wikibook. --84.221.88.72 (talk) 20:31, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

Bit complicated for elementary school
This is a very good wikibook, but it seems a bit complicated for an elementary school student. I could be totally wrong but maybe we should make the articles a little bit easier with simpler math and less complicated words. --Sanitized (talk) 05:47, 13 July 2008 (UTC)


 * I agree with the above person and share the opinion. Wikijunior has books supposedly aimed at children upto 12.(with some give and take, consider 14)
 * But this book treats topics like fractals, with summations of infinite geometric series, and what not!
 * I think the book ought to be made simpler and more interesting, possibly with more illustrations or something.
 * Please note that a 12 yr old can neither understand, nor is interested in an equation with a "sigma", summing up an "infinite series", none of which he/she knows about, to give an answer that says (4/3)^n, when they can barely understand what 3^2 is!!! 10:39, 30 Jan 2009 UTC


 * More interesting sure, but we're talking about 12 year olds here, not people who can "barely understand what 3^2 is"! Summing infinite series and fractals are highly interesting to many kids from 7 or 8 upwards, and if a kid doesn't know about them then surely that's what this book is about?  Of course, more explanation is always welcome though...


 * I'm a 12-year-old. 3^2 is 9, right? Kayau ( talk &#124; email &#124; contribs ) 11:31, 15 June 2010 (UTC)


 * Maybe you folks are already familiar with this, but &mdash; After hanging around Wikijunior long enough I learned from xixtas about the Gunning fog index, and other such metrics, that give ballpark estimates of the grade level of reading difficulty of a text. (There's a special place in my heart for the Gunning fog index because "fog" really is fog:  Gunning claimed that "much of the reading problem is a writing problem", because the writing people were trying to read was "full of fog and unnecessary complexity.")  When I'm curious to get a second opinion on the rough reading level of a passage, I use this web page.  BTW, if you run the Preamble to the US Constitution through it &mdash; the preface to that great defining document whose authors, so we're told, made the bold decision to write in plain language that anyone could understand, rather than lawyer-ese &mdash; you'll find that that has a Gunning Fog Index of about 27.5: apparently, it's plain language suitable for anyone who has 12 years of grade school, four years of college, and another eleven and a half years of graduate school.  --Pi zero (talk) 13:59, 15 June 2010 (UTC)

This is a super old discussion, but I agree. Browsing the Wikijunior books, this leaps out as being rather advanced! Maybe it should be renamed "Geometry for kids just finishing Elementary School, and who are also exceptionally smart at maths"! But speaking of naming, I notice it doesn't have the WikiJunior namespace like the others. Was it demoted from WikiBooks to the WikiJunior list at some point? -- Harry Wood (discuss • contribs) 02:26, 15 February 2021 (UTC)

Exercises
Why there is no Category for Exercises in the Wikibooks? I am specially interested (but not restricted to) math exercises; I wrote some in the Portuguese mirror. Albmont (talk) 20:15, 13 August 2008 (UTC)

CAPS
Shouldn't the title Geometry for elementary school be in capitol letters? I would change it to Geometry for Elementary School, but that would mess up all the links. Anyone know how to do this graciously? --Cretaceous9 (talk) 12:57, 6 January 2009 (UTC)

Needs Proofreading
Hi. I was just having a look at the PDF version of this book, and discovered a typo in the Notation section: "The notation that is used in the book is defined at the first time it is used. However, it order to simplify the use, it is also summarized in a special chapter. - Clearly this should read "in order to simplify the use..." - If this book is gonna go to featured status, it needs a thorough proofread before it gets there :) I'll correct the error I pointed out, but I have no idea if there may be others. BarkingFish (talk) 23:01, 22 June 2010 (UTC)

Scratch that, it appears to have been already corrected. But the version which appeared when I clicked on a link for a PDF clearly had that error in. Anyone got any ideas what could be going on there? BarkingFish (talk) 23:06, 22 June 2010 (UTC)


 * PDFs are not automatically updated. You have to go and make another PDF if you want to update it. :) It would be great if you could make one after I finish the remaining modules! Thanks! Kayau ( talk &#124; email &#124; contribs ) 00:03, 23 June 2010 (UTC)


 * No problem, Kayau. Let me know when you've done the remaining modules, and I'll regenerate the PDF and upload it again. BarkingFish (talk) 15:28, 5 July 2010 (UTC)


 * By then it will be like October or something. Maybe even next February, at most... Kayau ( talk &#124; email &#124; contribs ) 01:25, 6 July 2010 (UTC)

Some pages speedied
I feel a tad guilty about leaving things undone in this book, especially since the book used to look different, so I've speedied a few pages that I'd planned but don't think I'll be able to finish. If you think you can write them you're welcome to. Kayau 14:41, 25 February 2011 (UTC)

Page Review Protection
All pages in this book have been protected so that any edits by IP or new editors must be approved before they are visible because this book is targeted towards younger people. This is the same protection as for Wikijunior books.--ЗAНИA talk 20:21, 15 April 2014 (UTC)