Talk:French/Grammar/Pronouns

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Ils y en sont ne veux rien dire. Il faut dire "Il en existe plusieurs". 89.48.250.14 17:00, 13 March 2006 (UTC) Changed to "Il y en a." - O.K.? Il y en a est égamenet OK. tu es hagindaz ? non ? Merrheim 17:16, 13 March 2006 (UTC)


 * Non. Use ~ to sign with your IP/name and date. I also recommend that you sign up for an account. Thanks for your help, 89.48.250.14 and Merrheim. --Hagindaz 23:46, 13 March 2006 (UTC)

§ /* Possessive Pronouns */ le tienne, le sienne
Should not 'le tienne' and 'le sienne' here be 'la tienne', 'la sienne'? Or are they irregular like that? —Auk 06:31, 29 January 2007 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the lively response! Anyway, I verified the terms in a dictionary, and I've now corrected them to la. —Auk 23:07, 11 February 2007 (UTC)

relative order of direct & indirect non-3rd-person pronouns
I am trying to say in French, "If he recommends you to me, then you shall be my friend."

Should the condition (underlined) be #1 or #2?
 * 1) s'il vous me recommande
 * 2) s'il me vous recommande

The article gives no help here. Order rules says only
 * When a sentence uses the indirect object pronouns me, te, nous, and vous with the direct object pronouns le, la, and les, me, te, nous, and vous go first.
 * il me le donne. - He gives it to me.

But I need to use me and vous together, me as I.O. and vous as D.O., and the article says nothing about such cases. Nor do others I've consulted. This needs clarification.

--Thnidu (discuss • contribs) 16:08, 1 December 2011 (UTC)


 * According to "A Comprehensive French Grammar" by Glanville Price (ISBN 978-1-4051-5385-0) section 208, it is not possible to combine any two of me, te, se, nous or vous in the same sentence. He says "In circumstances that might seem to require one of these impossible constructions, the direct object pronoun follows the ordinary rule but the indirect object is expressed by à (to) and a disjunctive pronoun." This would produce "il vous recommande à moi" based on your example. (Your complete example sentence being a conditional contruction using si may require different tenses in French, which is a separate issue unrelated to the content of this page which we need not discuss here.) I don't know if this is the kind of depth of knowledge you would expect to find in a book of this level or not. Hope this helps anyway. Recent Runes (discuss • contribs) 18:11, 3 December 2011 (UTC)