Talk:French/Grammar/Adjectives

Pauvre
Pauvre is not marked with '+' as changing its meaning depending on whether it stands before or after the noun, but right under that is said that it can mean unlucky or poor - shouldn't it be marked in the list, then?

Errors
-ancien changes in meaning pre/post as do others, no explanation of rule

-words of time like premier/dernier come before or after based on rules, no explanation.

why is this page marked complete?

the box of irregular plural adjectives seems to turn into a box of irregular nouns, bijou and chou are not adjectives! also, journal does not end in -au. Stanlavisbad (talk) 13:49, 2 March 2008 (UTC)


 * I have removed the irregular nouns and reduced the completion to 75% in the two templates.


 * I am not sure whether there are any adjectives ending in -au or -eu that form plurals ending in -aux and -eux, but I have left those table rows in for the moment. Recent Runes (talk) 18:52, 21 January 2010 (UTC)

de versus des for plurals
Why under "Beau, nouveau, and vieux" have you made the masculine and feminine plural articles "de" instead of "des"? Of course, there are contexts in which "de" would be part of the appropriate construction, but these do not supply that context and in fact, supply the opposite (as in, handsome boy turns into handsome boys - there is no indication that an unusual use of "de" would be warranted in this context). The article is quite sparse in terms of explaining what it is doing in each section and it is very difficult to understand the sub-organization. Moreover, this issue with the basics of indefinite articles seems like a significant oversight.Lucyep (talk) 22:30, 24 September 2010 (UTC)
 * I didn't write this part myself, but the usage is supported by a number of grammar references. e.g.
 * According to about.com, "when the plural indefinite or partitive article is used with an adjective that precedes a noun, des changes to de."
 * According to Glanville Price's 2008 "A Comprehensive French Grammar" p35 (Blackwell, ISBN 978-1-4051-5384-3) "The plural partitive (or indefinite) article des is replaced by de when an adjective precedes the noun".
 * Recent Runes (talk) 10:26, 25 September 2010 (UTC)