Talk:First Aid/Extended Assessment

Keep the Article?
I don't think we should keep this article. Even in an advanced first aid situation, it isn't necessary to check the lymph nodes of a patient or check for clubbing. Cyanosis is good, but could be moved into other articles. Anemia isn't something one would check for either in a first aid (or advanced first aid) situation. Anyways, for jaundice, it is easier to check the "white part" of the eye. I don't think that this is necessary even under advanced first aid as these are things mostly checked for in a hospital or doctor's office. None are life threatening (except for maybe cyanosis.) Mike6271 03:25, 7 July 2007 (UTC)


 * I don't think we need this module either. All of this is beyond first aid, and is starting to get into first responder or EMT - type skills. They might have a better place in a wikibook aimed at that audience. Even putting them in the advanced topics chapter isn't really satisfactory since they're not first aid at all, not even advanced first aid.
 * Cyanosis should be covered in First Aid/Vitals as part of circulation.
 * Owain.davies left me a message about this: User Talk:Mike.lifeguard. I agree that rescuers should be doing stuff between calling EMS and EMS arriving - but the secondary assessment should fill that time amply. SJA seems to think that it takes 20 minutes to do a thorough secondary - I don't think it takes that long, but it'll probably fill your time until EMS arrives.
 *  – Mike.lifeguard | talk 03:44, 7 July 2007 (UTC)


 * This is really treading into EMT territory with an extended assessment. Remember, FIRST Aid, not Secondary Aid. Not even First Responders are trained in a extended assessment, that skill is left for the EMTs. (We just brought this up at class today.)--Nugger 03:33, 5 August 2007 (UTC)