Talk:European History/Europe: 1945 to Present

There should be information on Britain's history between 1951 and 1979. Unless I'm terribly mistaken, I'm sure that a lot of history happened during those next two decades. ABurke 19:07, 16 November 2006 (UTC)


 * No, Only important events can be posted in the book, I think, same as you, unless I'm mistaken. Rakuten06 19:09, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

quote from page "Brezhnev presided over the USSR for longer than any other than Stalin, and there was never a plot to take his position. He was allowed to grow old in office, and died on November 10, 1982 at the age of 75.  He was succeeded by Gorbachev."

What about mentioning Yuri Andropov and Konstantin Chernenko, at the moment the page reads Brezhnev died and Gorbachev succeeded him in 1985, it makes no sense with a three year gap

re; Germany
"In 1961, Adenauer saw the erection of the Berlin Wall to stop the flood of refugees escaping to the west."

This is simply untrue. The building of the Berlin Wall was the idea of the government of the GDR and approved by Khrushchev's Soviet government - the wording of this article implies that it was Adenauer's government in West Germany which was responsible, when the reality is that they completely opposed it

Czechoslovakia 1968 - Prague Spring
This how the paragraph reads: "Brezhnev is well known for his Brezhnev Doctrine, which promised to intervene if a socialist regime was threatened. During Brezhnev's reign, in 1968, there was revolution in Czechoslovakia. Alexander Dubcek was elected leader of the communist party, and he called for free press, democracy, and other parties. In this sense he curbed repression, and he advocated "Socialism with a Human Face" - that is, more consumer goods, more rights, and more freedom. However, the Soviets invaded the country in what has become known as the "Prague Spring" and crushed this new government in August 1968."

The last sentence is untrue. The whole movement is known as "Prague Spring", because it lasted just the spring (and part of summer). The Soviet (and other) tanks came at August 1968 (- well that would hardly give a reason for the name "spring" :).). The invasion is sometimes heard of as The end of Prague Spring, but not Prague Spring itself. --Reo On (talk) 20:38, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

I do not know, whether I have here the same freedom to edit in good will like in Wikipedia or this text represents consensus of historians. I moved the denotation from the Soviet Invasion to the proces itself see. --Reo On (talk) 21:28, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

The factual inaccuracies and simplifications are so misleading in some places as to make impossible to correct this entry without recommending a complete re-write of the page. It is only useful as a simple entry-level document for readers with no prior knowledge. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Biba cat (discuss • contribs) 2010-11-23 09:22:29

Paragraph about Britain
Hey you guys. I am working on the translation into German and I really can't wrap my head around this sentence: "The former model of free-market capitalism for much of the world, Britain from 1950 to 1980 embraced much of the domestic program of a social democratic state, while remaining a staunch ally of the United States in the Cold War."

I seems to me that a verb might be missing in the first part. Or I simply don't get the full meaning. Could someone please explain the whole sentence to me?

I would aprecciate it. Best, Sarina


 * Well I think what it says is OK, but I will try to untangle its meaning for you:
 * The first section says that "Britain was the model of free-market capitalism for much of the world" in former (earlier) times, but which earlier times aren't particularly specified.
 * It then says "Britain from 1950 to 1980 embraced much of the domestic program of a social democratic state" which I think should speak for itself.
 * It then says that "while, at the same time, Britain remained a staunch ally of the United States in the Cold War", again it should be clear.
 * Well I hope this helps, reply if you need more clarification. -- Jules (Mrjulesd) 12:05, 19 February 2021 (UTC)