Talk:Dutch/Alfabet/Archive

Archived Jcwf (discuss • contribs) 04:04, 20 May 2015 (UTC)

Maybe some dutch people can speak in the dutch alfabet? Then it is more clear for englisch people.

The usage of the word "feisty" as an example of Dutch /Ei/ ( and ) is wrong. In English the word "feisty" is pronounced /fAisti/. The diphthong [Ei] appears in English in most positions where other languages have [e], for example "pay" is [pEi]. It might be hard to explain this, but "feisty" definitely does NOT have [Ei], it has [Ai].

Two points. Sound clips are very helpful here- but more would be useful. The contrasts referred to between Amsterdam pronunciation and other need a sound file. The Sch/g problem need more files, particularly showing acceptable forms. As a Brit from Northern England, who has never mastered the English 'r' but relies on a uvular 'r' I am aware that slight changes are acceptable in a language providing you are consistent- I think that British learners are seeking ways to acquire a acceptable set of approximations rather than perfect sound forms.

Point number two- there are many references to English, but which English- the Northern vowel forms are very different from the distorted southern vowels. Witness the dispute on the pronunctiation of Maidstone- editors in the south of the town know it as Mades tone (rhymes with phone), 2km north and it is Mide stn which degrades to My sn as you move down the socio economic ladder. ClemRutter (talk) 23:07, 25 October 2008 (UTC)


 * At the time sound files were few and far between but now they have been added. Jcwf (discuss • contribs) 04:04, 20 May 2015 (UTC)


 * Yes I am still around- thanks very much. --ClemRutter (discuss • contribs) 18:41, 28 May 2015 (UTC)