Talk:Digital Media & Culture: Collaborative Essay Collection 2018/Collective Intelligence/Research Question 2:Fairman Fairplay

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 * GregXenon01 (discuss • contribs) 19:44, 8 March 2018 (UTC)


 * Still not heard anything form you guys. What are your usernames, for example? where is your discussion? - we need to see lots of discussion recorded here for you to amass "contribs" which are used to evaluate engagement. GregXenon01 (discuss • contribs) 13:23, 16 March 2018 (UTC)

Development Phase

This is an email chain with and  where we made initial arrangements to meet and discuss the early stages of planning for the collaborative essay. fairmanfour (discuss • contribs) 19:25, 4 April 2018 (UTC)

19 March 2018 at 11:24 - from to

Hi Christopher,

My name is Mollie-Jane, and it turns out that I am your partner for the Collaborative Essay in FMSU9A4 Digital and Media Studies- I'm sorry it has taken me a bit to get in contact, I somehow missed Greg's email announcing the groups and had issues finding the announcement on the Canvas page, because I'm still learning Canvas. I'm super excited to work with you- I promise that I am a hard worker, and want to be successful in this class and on this project. Is there a time you would like to meet up to go over what we want to do for this essay?? I'm happy to meet at the Union or in the library- I'm a study abroad student, so my options for meet up spots are a bit limited. I look forward to working with you!

Best, Mollie-Jane Martin

19 March 2018 at 14:18 - from to

Hi Mollie, is this possible for us to meet at the union at about 4? Looking forward to working with you too

CJ Fairman

19 March 2018 at 16:56 - from to

I’m at the union just now, but can’t see any sign of you. If you aren’t able to make it then I would suggest meeting at tomorrow’s computer lab or trying to reach each other over Facebook for better communication. In the meantime I’ll be looking in our topic and try and figure out some ways we can approach this essay

CJ Fairman

20 March 2018 at 14:22 - from to

Hi CJ,

I totally missed this email from yesterday, I am so sorry! I didn't check my inbox again until this morning, but I would be happy to meet at computer lab today. I can give you my phone number so we can communicate over WhatsApp or something when we meet today.

Best, Mollie-Jane Martin

(After this, we were able to meet at the Computer Lab on 20 March 2018 at 3:00pm) fairmanfour (discuss • contribs) 19:25, 4 April 2018 (UTC)

'''This is a transcription from notes from meetings with and  where we discussed our topic and potential research questions to pursue. This conversation originally took place on Tuesday 20 March.''' Mom00107 (discuss • contribs) 09:55, 4 April 2018 (UTC)

So our topic is Collective Intelligence, which I think has a lot of potential for research topics. Does anyone have any ideas here, just off the bat? Mom00107 (discuss • contribs) 09:55, 4 April 2018 (UTC)

What if we just spent a bit of time going through some of the readings over Collective Intelligence to see if we can find something that interests us and we can expand on? - fairmanfour (discuss • contribs) 19:25, 4 April 2018 (UTC)

I think that's a good idea. We can also kind of refresh ourselves on the topic as we do that too, which will probably be helpful. Mom00107 (discuss • contribs) 09:55, 4 April 2018 (UTC)

One idea I had, after reading was looking at the way collective intelligence and change behavior? It seems like a lot of the readings here talk about events, or how collective intelligence has potential to cause changes and such, so that could be an interesting avenue. Mom00107 (discuss • contribs) 09:55, 4 April 2018 (UTC)

Yeah, I agree. I think there are a decent amount of examples we could use too. I found one example of this in one of the Jenkins readings from that week, but it was negative? Do you think we could include that too? fairmanfour (discuss • contribs) 19:25, 4 April 2018 (UTC)

Definitely! So how could we turn this into a research question? Maybe something like: how can collective intelligence positively and negatively change a person's behavior or actions. Mom00107 (discuss • contribs) 09:55, 4 April 2018 (UTC)

But what about groups and group action too? I think that's an important aspect of collective intelligence to include as well. fairmanfour (discuss • contribs) 19:25, 4 April 2018 (UTC)

Hmm, yeah I think you make a good point there. I know that a lot of social movements and stuff like that have begun online and then have influenced actions offline too. Like last year the whole #OscarsSoWhite began online, and by the time the ceremony came along the host of the show was acknowledging it because it was being talked about so much. Mom00107 (discuss • contribs) 09:55, 4 April 2018 (UTC)

Right, so I think it's important for us to include that too. So maybe we can change it to: how can collective intelligence positively and negatively change a person or group's behavior? fairmanfour (discuss • contribs) 19:25, 4 April 2018 (UTC)

Yes I like that! That way I think we'll have covered all the potential aspects of the research question. Mom00107 (discuss • contribs) 09:55, 4 April 2018 (UTC)

Yep. Do we have to do anything with the question after that? I mean besides write the essay. fairmanfour (discuss • contribs) 19:25, 4 April 2018 (UTC)

I'll have to check but I think we send it to Greg for approval right? I can send if it ends up being that way. Mom00107 (discuss • contribs) 09:55, 4 April 2018 (UTC)

That sounds right. fairmanfour (discuss • contribs) 19:25, 4 April 2018 (UTC)

This is a transcription from a discussion on 25 March

Who is free/in uni? Can we just sit down and get this going? Digitalmediafiend (discuss • contribs) 15:25, 4 April 2018 (UTC)

I'm busy just now, can we all meet up tomorrow? I'll be free before 3, and we don't have computer lab. fairmanfour (discuss • contribs) 19:25, 4 April 2018 (UTC)

Sure I'm free tomorrow. Is there anything we can do before tomorrow to get this started? I'm stressing, can you tell? Digitalmediafiend (discuss • contribs) 15:25, 4 April 2018 (UTC)

Mollie has made an outline of subjects we can cover in the essay on the wiki books fairmanfour (discuss • contribs) 19:25, 4 April 2018 (UTC)

I can do tomorrow as well! I have a class at 1, but I can meet anytime before, and then I can meet after until 3? Mom00107 (discuss • contribs) 12:56, 4 April 2018 (UTC)

I'll be meeting with a group for another assignment after 3. What if we meet up for a bit tomorrow and then again on Wednesday if you're both free? fairmanfour (discuss • contribs) 19:25, 4 April 2018 (UTC)

Sure!!! I'm free all day Wednesday after 10. Mom00107 (discuss • contribs) 12:56, 4 April 2018 (UTC)

I"m free those times apart form Wednesday. I have a meeting at 5:30 and I"m busy for the rest of the night Digitalmediafiend (discuss • contribs) 15:25, 4 April 2018 (UTC)

This is a transcription from a discussion on 26 March

Are the headings on our wiki page already? Digitalmediafiend (discuss • contribs) 15:25, 4 April 2018 (UTC)

Yeah they're under the main concepts heading. fairmanfour (discuss • contribs) 19:25, 4 April 2018 (UTC)

Should we divide them up to work on individually? Digitalmediafiend (discuss • contribs) 15:25, 4 April 2018 (UTC)

We can take different subjects, we'll decide which ones we do tomorrow, I think. Is there any particular preference just now? fairmanfour (discuss • contribs) 19:25, 4 April 2018 (UTC)

This is a transcription of a discussion from 27 March

When do you want to meet today? Digitalmediafiend (discuss • contribs) 15:25, 4 April 2018 (UTC)

Shall we try and meet for 11 at the study zone? fairmanfour (discuss • contribs) 19:25, 4 April 2018 (UTC)

Sounds good!! Digitalmediafiend (discuss • contribs) 15:25, 4 April 2018 (UTC)

That works! Mom00107 (discuss • contribs) 12:56, 4 April 2018 (UTC)

How many words roughly should I be aiming for? Digitalmediafiend (discuss • contribs) 15:25, 4 April 2018 (UTC)

About 600 words per section fairmanfour (discuss • contribs) 19:25, 4 April 2018 (UTC)

Okay that's not bad. I'll give you a shout if I'm struggling with anything Digitalmediafiend (discuss • contribs) 15:25, 4 April 2018 (UTC)

This is a transcription of a discussion from 28 March 

So good news, our essay question got approved, so that's great. WE can move forward on writing the essay now. Mom00107 (discuss • contribs) 10:52, 4 April 2018 (UTC)

Yeah that's great. So now that that is done, what's the next steps? fairmanfour (discuss • contribs) 19:25, 4 April 2018 (UTC)

I put a couple of categories and headings for essay on our collaborative page, and I wrote a rough draft introduction if you guys want to check those out. They can definitely be changed or expanded, I kind of just broke it down based on our research question and what I thought made sense based on it. Mom00107 (discuss • contribs) 10:52, 4 April 2018 (UTC)

Okay so I see the categories you wrote up like this: online communities and media and individual behavior, online communities and media and collective behavior, positive collective and individual action from online communities and media, negative collection and individual action from online communities and media, and overall impact of online communities and behavior- theory. Then there is a conclusion. Digitalmediafiend (discuss • contribs) 15:25, 4 April 2018 (UTC) Is there any way to make some of those shorter or clearer? They are a little long and wordy fairmanfour (discuss • contribs) 19:25, 4 April 2018 (UTC)

Definitely, we can do that. Would it look better if I put online communities/media for the first two categories to clean it up? Mom00107 (discuss • contribs) 10:57, 4 April 2018 (UTC)

Yeah do that, it'll look better. Also, what do you mean by the "online communities and behavior-theory" section? How is it different from a conclusion? Digitalmediafiend (discuss • contribs) 15:25, 4 April 2018 (UTC)

Oh yeah that. I just thought it would be good to have a fuller wrap up, that was more our work and thoughts after going through all the research articles and stuff we read and reference in the other parts of the essay. That way it's actually us putting something out there, rather than us just talking about different articles. fairmanfour (discuss • contribs) 19:25, 4 April 2018 (UTC)

Yeah so that's what I meant by that section. We can definitely change it though, or eliminate it if it ends up not working out. Mom00107 (discuss • contribs) 10:57, 4 April 2018 (UTC)

Alight cool that makes sense. So how are we going to divide up the work on this essay? I know you've already written the introduction but how should we do the rest? Digitalmediafiend (discuss • contribs) 15:25, 4 April 2018 (UTC)

I'm good with however you guys want to do it. Mom00107 (discuss • contribs) 12:23, 4 April 2018 (UTC)

How about and I split the first four sections between us- I could do online communities/media and individual behaviour and then online communities/media and collective behaviour, then  could do the next two sections? Then you could do the theory section and the conclusion. That way we all get similar amounts of writing responsibility. fairmanfour (discuss • contribs) 19:25, 4 April 2018 (UTC)

I think that sounds fair. That way we'd all be writing about 1,000 words, if each section is around 600 words, and then the conclusion and introduction are around 250 to 300 words. It will all work out evenly.

I agree to that. I think the best way for me to do the theory section for this is to wait until you guys have written at least some of your sections, then go through and read them to find the best approach for our final theory and do a bit of research based on that. It's also important to remember that our writing style needs to sound similar and that we sound like one person writing this. So I can also check that whenever I'm writing the theory section. Mom00107 (discuss • contribs) 12:23, 4 April 2018 (UTC)

That sounds good to me. I agree that we need to make sure it sounds cohesive as we write it all. We write it in the "latest draft" section right? fairmanfour (discuss • contribs) 19:25, 4 April 2018 (UTC)

From what I understand that's how it works, and then once we have our final draft we publish it to the book? Because right now when you look at latest draft, all of our stuff is there, but once it's published totally I think it shows up on the main page. Digitalmediafiend (discuss • contribs) 15:25, 4 April 2018 (UTC)

How are you guys doing with Wikibooks?? I've figured out how to do the comments and stuff and we found the Digital Media page, so I feel a lot better about it now, but it's still confusing to me. Mom00107 (discuss • contribs) 12:43, 4 April 2018 (UTC)

Yeah, I'm not a huge fan either. I think it's taken everyone a while to understand the way it all works. fairmanfour (discuss • contribs) 19:25, 4 April 2018 (UTC)

Also quick question, why do we have a big list of references at the bottom of our page right now? Are they there for a reason? Digitalmediafiend (discuss • contribs) 15:25, 4 April 2018 (UTC)

Oh yeah those- we've just put down some articles that we think we might use so far, plus the ones from our annotated bibliography. We can take them off or build on them if needed. They're just kind of there in case we need them right now. fairmanfour (discuss • contribs) 19:25, 4 April 2018 (UTC)

Ah okay, that makes more sense. Digitalmediafiend (discuss • contribs) 15:25, 4 April 2018 (UTC)

But do you think we'll be good writing the essay for now? Mom00107 (discuss • contribs) 12:43, 4 April 2018 (UTC)

How are you guys doing with Wikibooks?? I've figured out how to do the comments and stuff and we found the Digital Media page, so I feel a lot better about it now, but it's still confusing to me. Mom00107 (discuss • contribs) 12:43, 4 April 2018 (UTC)

Yeah, I'm not a huge fan either. I think it's taken everyone a while to understand the way it all works.

Also quick question, why do we have a big list of references at the bottom of our page right now? Are they there for a reason? Digitalmediafiend (discuss • contribs) 15:25, 4 April 2018 (UTC)

Oh yeah those- we've just put down some articles that we think we might use so far, plus the ones from our annotated bibliography. We can take them off or build on them if needed. They're just kind of there in case we need them right now. fairmanfour (discuss • contribs) 19:25, 4 April 2018 (UTC)

Ah okay, that makes more sense. Digitalmediafiend (discuss • contribs) 15:25, 4 April 2018 (UTC)

But do you think we'll be good writing the essay for now? Mom00107 (discuss • contribs) 12:43, 4 April 2018 (UTC)

I think we'll be good. Now that we have all the bits worked out and can start finishing up all the writing and making it sound nice. We can check back in as we continue writing if there are any issues or if we need to really change anything. Digitalmediafiend (discuss • contribs) 15:25, 4 April 2018 (UTC)

Process

I'm nearly fully finished my part and will post it shortly before 7pm! I hope you both are doing well!

Digitalmediafiend (discuss • contribs) 15:36, 4 April 2018 (UTC)

I think everything is looking good so far! Thanks for all the hard work everyone. I'm going to start finishing up the theory section and the conclusion. As far as I can tell we only need about 1000-ish more words to hit 3000! Mom00107 (discuss • contribs) 20:33, 4 April 2018 (UTC)

Also, for the sentence you wrote do I need to leave your signature there?? I'm totally willing to, and it's a good opening point for the section, I'm just unsure of how we attribute that kind of stuff. Mom00107 (discuss • contribs) 23:43, 4 April 2018 (UTC)

I don't think we have to leave signatures at the end of our individual essay pieces because it might take the reader out of the essay a bit. What do you guys think? Digitalmediafiend (discuss • contribs) 10:11, 5 April 2018 (UTC)

Visitor Comments
Hey there! I had a look at your book page and your question, introduction and proposed topics which look really interesting. I would definitely suggest to start discussing on this page like Greg has requested. It does help significantly with the essay and the layout as well as helps with our grade for this module. Plus it would be awesome as a visitor to see your working process! Good luck and hope all goes well! --Stirsb00027 (discuss • contribs) 11:01, 30 March 2018 (UTC)

Hi there!! Thank you for visiting our page and checking out our work so far, I really appreciate it! We are working on learning and utilizing this page. Mom00107 (discuss • contribs) 09:58, 4 April 2018 (UTC)

Hey team just wanted to say a big well done, I think we've all done massively well. Good luck to you all!MTxPrincipessa18 (discuss • contribs) 10:59, 5 April 2018 (UTC)

INSTRUCTOR FEEDBACK
General Feedback
 * Essays of this standard attain the following grade descriptor for the collaborative essay. Whereas not all of the elements here will be directly relevant to your particular response to the brief, this will give you a clearer idea of how the grade you have been given relates to the standards and quality expected of work at this level:
 * Satisfactory. Among other things, satisfactory standard work may try to relate an idea from the module to an original example, but might not be very convincing. It may waste space on synopsis or description, rather than making a point. It may have spelling or grammatical errors and typos. It might not demonstrate more than a single quick pass at the assignment, informed only by lecture materials and/or cursory reading. It may suggest reading but not thinking (or indeed the reverse). The wiki markup formatting will need some work.

Specific Feedback:


 * You have submitted a well written response to the brief. Here you outline a number of arguments that specifically address the theme of Collective Intelligence, and your discussion of the research evidences some working knowledge of scholarship on your chosen topic. The research question that you have chosen to discuss on your theme is fairly well chosen because it provides the opportunities to engage with the relevant research. However, I do think that there are times when you could have made much more of this opportunity, and some of this is down to poor citation method or lack of full references. There’s also a curious orphaned subtitle under main concepts. It appears that there may be some unfinished work here?


 * The essay is written in a fairly accessible style, and your argument is logically structured, is fairly critically engaged, and you have demonstrated awareness of some of the contradictions inherent in the theme itself. The argument encompasses perceived positive and negative elements of the practices of Collective Intelligence, though you are careful to not fall into binary arguments and manage to keep the discussion fully rounded. Another critique here is that parts of the page are made up of large chunks of text. Inclusion of embedded links and images would have helped break this up and make more of the platform’s affordances. I think an eye on formatting and presentation would have been worth the effort.


 * N.B.:Feedback for your Discussion, engagement and contribs elements for the assessment will be given on your individual User Discussion Pages. Grades for all work will communicated confidentially via Canvas.’’’

GregXenon01 (discuss • contribs) 11:43, 23 April 2018 (UTC)