Talk:Computer Go/Tromp-Taylor Rules

Tromp-Taylor rules
EDIT: The following part added about dead stones totally misunderstand the Tromp-Taylor rules. There is no dead stones under Tromp-Taylor rules! Every stone on the board after two passes are alive!

NOTE: if one think the Tromp-Taylor rules are the same as the basic rules then one has not read them careful enough. There is no dead stones in the Tromp-Taylor rules. All stones after two passes are alive! Read John's comments at his page. Point eight (8) in the comments describes a practical shortcut for stone removals. But that is NOT included in the Tromp-Taylor rules. Tromp-Taylor rules are mathematically clean and mixing in dead stones just destroys the whole idea behind the rules. (see the NZ rules for more information)

, (recreated by User:Mrjulesd from book page).


 * OK well maybe the page needs changing. How owuld you proceed? -- Jules  (Mrjulesd) 18:18, 19 February 2020 (UTC)

I'm totally new at editing wikipedia! (my first time)

But when I noticed that most of the text on the page was wrong or at least should not be at that page! Then I felt that I had to at least make a comment!

My suggestion is that one remove everything below "Source: John's Go Page", as that has nothing to do with the Tromp-Taylor rules. One could add a link to https://deepleela.com/cgos, to show the rules in action. Where one can watch the top bots compete. And also see that all stones are removed before passing (unless someone resign). One could also add a text "After two consecutive passes all stones at the board are alive. Therefore one must capture all stones inside ones territory before passing. But when humans use the Tromp-Taylor rules one could for practical reason agree on removing stones instead on actually capture them before passing as that will not change the score."

I am also sure that you can write that in much better english than I can!

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The most annoying part of the current text is "The most common criticism of Tromp-Taylor rules is that they do not describe a method for removing "dead stones" from the board." As there is no dead stones in the Tromp-Taylor rules. That is the beauty of them! That whats make them perfect for go-bots!

The comes a long discussion on how to solve the non existing problem.

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The system here prevents me from giving you more links with information.