Talk:Chess/The Endgame

Minor Piece Endgames
The module's section on minor piece endgames is incorrect in holding that mate cannot be forced in the ending KBN vs. K. This can in fact be done fairly easily; the technique is known to most class A players. In no starting position does the mate require an extension of the 50-move rule to execute, in contrast with challenging endings like KNN vs. KP (for which mate can be forced in some starting positions). Leverkuhn 07:23, 22 May 2006 (UTC)

You're right, sorry. Does anyone know if chess puzzles and their solutions can be copyrighted? The exact presentation can be copyrighted, but the puzzle itself would seem to be in the public domain. Maybe we could add a section on edgame puzzles and famous endgame studies.--Tm chk 16:22, 4 June 2006 (UTC)

Can we remove the cleanup mark on this section? I addressed the above comment, and I believe that there are a lot fewer spelling errors after my extensive edits. There is plenty of room for additions, but I think what is here is fairly solid. --Bill Alexander 06:38, 27 May 2006 (UTC)

Rook Endgames
Hi. Wikipedia has a sweet article on rook and pawn vs rook. I am totally new to wiki, so I thought I would ask here first if it was OK if I copied the wikipedia article into the Rook Endgames section (or at some parts of it). It has Lucena, Phildor, and lots of other good stuff.

The article might be too long or too advanced though. Anyway, Phildor & Lucena are basically the 2 definitive rook endgame positions. If anything is going to be put in this section, at least these two positions probably deserve a place. --Just Joe 07:57, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

Chess Diagrams
Hi, Would it also be possible to have the position diagrams in Fen format?

Chess Animated Diagrams
Hi, Would it be possible to have the positions and solutions animated, going from one diagrammed board position to the other, or showing the alternative lines?

Subsections?
Might it be better to turn this page into a table of contents and give each specific ending its own page/chapter? The study of individual piece vs. piece endings can be very complex and detailed; there should be easily enough content for each one to make a respectable size subpage. If the current page is extended anything beyond its current size (almost 30k) it might become unwieldy and hard to navigate, IMO. Tempodivalse 20:14, 8 January 2011 (UTC)


 * Complete, wholehearted agreement! --Whoop whoop pull up Bitching Betty 01:15, 12 January 2011 (UTC)


 * Revamp completed per no objections (and this page getting longer and slower to load by the day). I'll work on adding more sections and expanding the existing content. Help will be appreciated! :-) Tempodivalse 01:42, 12 January 2011 (UTC)

"Multiple heavy pieces"
Does "heavy pieces" mean "major pieces," i.e., rooks and queens? --Whoop whoop pull up Bitching Betty 02:08, 22 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Yes - "heavy" and "major" are synonyms, if I'm not mistaken. Feel free to change it if you want - I'm unsure which one is more common. Tempodivalse 05:44, 22 January 2011 (UTC)
 * OK, and I think that "major" is more common. --Whoop whoop pull up Bitching Betty 18:06, 22 February 2011 (UTC)
 * I removed it, because the scenario is covered under KRR-K, unlike the one for 3+ minor pieces, which I kept. --Whoop whoop pull up Bitching Betty 21:09, 13 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Readded, because it turns out it (KRRR-K) isn't totally covered under KRR-K, even though I thought so at the time. Sorry I removed it! --Whoop whoop pull up Bitching Betty 00:11, 6 April 2011 (UTC)

Stalemate (and other draws)
Should there be a section about stalemate and other draws (50-move rule, insufficient material, threefold repetition of position, possibly agreement) and how to avoid them? --Whoop whoop pull up Bitching Betty 21:06, 13 March 2011 (UTC)