Talk:Blended Learning in K-12/Characteristics of Blended Learning

The following is a transcript of a chat between Cheryl C., Warner F., and Hyung R. on October 10, 2005 using TappedIn Room: WarnerF_Ofc

HyungR joined the room.

HyungR: hey guys

WarnerF: How old are your kids, again?

CherylCh: 6 1/2 (Robin) and 3 1/2 (Harris)

WarnerF: Sounds like a handful (even when they are behaving!)

CherylCh: true

HyungR: i just came back from trying to help my dad start a dead SUV

CherylCh: fun

HyungR: what a way to spend my day off

CherylCh: is he in your neighborhood?

WarnerF: I take it that you were unsuccessful?

HyungR: he's about 30 minutes away

WarnerF: what a pain

HyungR: we need a new battery

HyungR: Frankemstein needs a new heart

HyungR: C, how was your trip

HyungR: ?

CherylCh: fun!

CherylCh: good football

WarnerF: a bad day for the blue and orange, though!

HyungR: great...at least someone is experiencing some good football...the bears stink

WarnerF :-(

HyungR: W, hope your class went well today

WarnerF: the bears always stink (just like the cubs!)

HyungR: Watch it there, Springfield

WarnerF: It was OK... the kids didn't behave very well, but the principal got to see that I know how to handle a class.

CherylCh: I didn't realize you were being observed!

WarnerF: today and tomorrow both!

WarnerF: They're all tired and cranky from Homecoming this weekend

HyungR: i bet.

CherylCh: ugh! I have never heard of it 2 days in a row.

WarnerF: At least it'll be over.

HyungR: C, I think you're the only one not being observed... i was last Friday...it's high stakes up here

CherylCh: tenure for 13 1/2 years should cover it until the spring at least

HyungR sits in envy

WarnerF: If you're non-tenured, they have to have been observed by october so that they can begin remediation if necessary

CherylCh: That is true here also, but not 2x in one week!

WarnerF: This evaluation doesn't really count, because I'm tenured, and off-cycle

HyungR: I keep forgeting that you're tenured...

WarnerF gloats and rubs it in

HyungR: i'll never be tenured

CherylCh: Are you in the same district but a new school?

WarnerF: yeah

CherylCh: So, why the observations? Doesn't he have some non-tenured teachers to bother?

WarnerF: I wanted to make sure that he knew he's always welcome in my classroom, that I'm not afraid to be observed, and that just become I'm tenured doesn't mean I'm taking the easy way out with my lessons

CherylCh: very noble of you. I approve.

HyungR: I thought you were just sucking up...jk

WarnerF: plus, there's a huge emphasis on literacy, and he thinks that the social studies teachers blow it off

CherylCh: H-were you being factecious (spelled wrong?), or do you only teach part time?

HyungR: I started a new position in Wilmette this year teaching 7th grade

HyungR: i have to start the whole tenure process again

CherylCh: 4 years or only 2?

HyungR: 4

CherylCh: ugh!

HyungR: no kidding...but the school actually adopted a new system of evaluating teachers and the admin only comes in 2x a year

HyungR: the other two are informally done my mentoring teachers

WarnerF: in some ways, that's even more intimidating

CherylCh: interesting yet annoying at the same time when you have already taught for a number of years

CherylCh agrees with Warner

HyungR: i only have to have the informal ones done this year since I'm not really a first year teacher...or at least that was a par tof the agreement

HyungR: i agree with you

HyungR: boith

CherylCh: I posted the last tapped in meeting

HyungR: C, thanks for posting

CherylCh: The rest of the project looks good.

WarnerF: I agree...

WarnerF: I looked at it when I got home from work today.

CherylCh: I made a number of document changes that Norma wanted done.

HyungR: Are we ok with the project?

HyungR: like what?

WarnerF: I figured you two wouldn't mind if I edited loose commas, dangling modifiers, and inconsistent verb tenses.

WarnerF: I didn't change any words though- that all sounded fine

HyungR: Thank you

CherylCh: format of the table of contents now has each topic numbered like everyone elses.

CherylCh thanks you also!

WarnerF: It looked really good. Thanks for doing that!

HyungR: Cool, thanks

HyungR: to the both of you

WarnerF: If someone gets a chance, could they take a look at mine? I can never spot my own mistakes.

CherylCh: I changed some page names so they linked with the book, something Norma said we didn't do.

CherylCh: The only things that still remain are...

HyungR: W, I can read your stuff tom.

WarnerF: Thanks, H

CherylCh: the last topic called blending online and face to face instructors and learners. Are we keeping it or deleting it? I vote delete as it seems repetative.

HyungR votes to delete and agrees with C

WarnerF: Should we delete it, or just put a small blurb saying that it's repetative?

CherylCh: Also, I didn't pull all of your resources off of your pages, but they need to come off and be added to the giant resource list at the end of the table of contents.

HyungR: Or should we repeat the info

CherylCh: W-I kind of like that idea. I like how you did the work section. If you are volunteering to do it, go for it. If not, delete it.

WarnerF: It should probably just go at the end to be consistent

WarnerF: I'll take care of it. I think I can even reference one of those articles.

HyungR: thanks w

CherylCh applauds loudly

HyungR cheers and whistles

WarnerF: btw, thanks again for that article on pedagogy, C, it was great.

CherylCh: For the references, I just copied and pasted into the big one. I think 2 articles were already listed there anyway. Then go back and delete them from your page.

WarnerF: Should we each take care of our own, or do you want me to do that?

HyungR: So the resources are not suppose to appear on the individual sites?

WarnerF: right

HyungR: thanks just needed to clarify

WarnerF: even though I think it's more helpful to a reader doing it our way

CherylCh: I am glad you enjoyed the programme. I did mine. Yes H. It doesn't take long. I did the main page already.

CherylCh: I agree W. But...

HyungR: ok, I can do that right after the chat, unless wiki is down again

CherylCh: If it were a paper book, the resources would all be at the end. I had to rethink it myself.

HyungR: There might be a short list of resources from me, here just wasn't too much on the topic

WarnerF: true, but they would also be in chapter notes, as well as in a bibliography

CherylCh: Wiki was very slow today. I tried to get everything done during nap time andit was like a race against time.

CherylCh: W-spoken like a true English teacher. (Clearly I didn't know that!)

WarnerF: Thanks (I think)

WarnerF smiles

HyungR: Good thing W is in our group

WarnerF: thanks, H

WarnerF blushes

CherylCh: I did read your work today and didn't notice any glaring problems by the way.

HyungR: me or W

CherylCh: both but I read before 3:00.

CherylCh: Did either of you update after that?

WarnerF: No, other than the edits.

HyungR: No, I was running around like a mad man today

CherylCh: I changed someone's numbered work into bullets. I hope you didn't mind.

WarnerF: Bullets are good. Thanks. (It was probably mine)

HyungR: No, thery were mine

CherylCh: Technically they are teal squares.

WarnerF: Oh, whoops.

CherylCh: Do you prefer numbers?

HyungR: thanks C

HyungR: no not really

HyungR: they were jsut easier to remember

CherylCh: ok, so are we done with that project except for the quick thing Warner is going to add? I will add that into the table of contents btw.

HyungR: thanks

HyungR: C

WarnerF: Thanks....you read my mind I was going to ask if someone could do that!

HyungR: I can put the chat in the discussion

CherylCh: Final plans are as follows:

CherylCh: H posts t.i.

WarnerF: check

CherylCh: W adds last topic

WarnerF: check

CherylCh: C adds to table of contents

HyungR: double chech

HyungR: k

CherylCh: W&H get rid of references/move to giant list

WarnerF: check

HyungR: double check

CherylCh: H&C post to moodle about final project discussion as W already did

WarnerF: I apologize for the tone of that posting, btw, I was pretty frustrated

CherylCh: Anything I missed?

WarnerF: I think we've got it all.

HyungR: W, me too C, no, sounds like a plan

CherylCh: Ok, then I am off to finish that and grade 10 stories and go to bed!

CherylCh: Night!

HyungR: good night

CherylCh left the room (signed off).

WarnerF: see you at chat tomorrow!

HyungR left the room (signed off).

2005.10.10 18:53:18 Signoff

The follwing is a transcript of a chat between the 3 of us on October 6, 2005 using TappedIn.

CherylCh: That was annoying.

WarnerF: What was?

HyungR joined the room.

HyungR: Hey guys

CherylCh: I couldn't get in the office.

WarnerF: I hate it when that happens

CherylCh: Did either of you look at Whickerbill or Camtasia? Would either be useful for our wonderful project?

WarnerF: I thought wickerbill might be useful, particurarly for Hyung's part

CherylCh: Could you summarize wickerbill?

HyungR: C, was it easy finding some disadvantages

HyungR: ?

CherylCh: They were more opinion than fact, I think.

WarnerF: Do disadvantaves have to be supported by the research, or is common sense enough?

WarnerF: Or is that a dumb question?

CherylCh: I went common sense.

HyungR: i figure common sense...there isn;t enough research

HyungR: oh...i did post the last conversation

WarnerF: Funny, I was about to say there usually isn't enough common sense

HyungR: what is the last characteristic that we have to put together?

WarnerF: I noticed under references that one of the sources I was going to try to pick up on campus

WarnerF: was online, so I'll check that out

WarnerF: and the article C sent seems really good on Pedagogy

HyungR: could you foward that to me as well?

WarnerF: It seems like the stuff that we have to read before Tuesday's chat should be applicable as well

WarnerF: I can send it to you if you want.

CherylCh: I think it is from some Australian journal and calls b.l. a programme. Its a bit annoying.

HyungR: thanks

WarnerF: The spelling kept bothering me

CherylCh: I couldn't acces the readings for this week.

WarnerF: I haven't tried it yet-

HyungR: do you guys ahve comlumbus day off?

WarnerF: No

CherylCh: No!:

WarnerF: We get Yom Kippur off instead

CherylCh: Yes I do, but I was trying to respond to Warner's no with shock!

WarnerF: It's politically incorrect in Champaign

CherylCh: What a ridiculous trade off... The founder of North America vs. a small Jewish population celebrating and I'm Jewish!

WarnerF: Since it celebrates the destruction of indigenous peoples

WarnerF: The actual trade-off is that we don't get Pulaski day off either,

WarnerF: and instead take Good Friday

CherylCh: We have both!

CherylCh: When do you get out of school?

WarnerF: June 1

HyungR: middle of June

CherylCh: Reminder: the midterm is due October 12.

HyungR: no a/c either

WarnerF: At what time?

WarnerF: midnight>

WarnerF: ?

CherylCh: June 1 is a week earlier than us.

CherylCh: I'd go midnight.

HyungR: iis that wed?

WarnerF: yes

CherylCh: H-You have no air?? In Wilmette?

CherylCh: Are you on the wrong side of the tracks?

HyungR: yep, only the 6th grade wing has a/c ...they are located below the superindendent's office

HyungR smiles

WarnerF: How about I try to finish my stuff by Sunday night? (with a goal of getting most of it done Saturday)

CherylCh: Both of you, Sunday night at what time?

WarnerF: If it's not convenient for you, C, we could meet monday night

HyungR: i will also try to get done by sun

HyungR: yeah, that's not a problem C

CherylCh: I will be around Sunday night!

WarnerF: I just need to be sure that I get my editing done by Tuesday, because Wed. is Kol Nidre

HyungR: enjoy the weekend

HyungR: We'll dfinately be done on sun

WarnerF: C, would you prefer to meet MOnday?

WarnerF: that way, if you're running late, or tired, you don't need to stress.

HyungR: W and I can start on the editing

CherylCh: Do you want to meet then or just review each other's work and then meet Monday? That way if you are running late we should all be ok?

WarnerF: I know I'll have lots of stuff to edit on Hyungs (j/k)

CherylCh smiles

WarnerF: How about we review each other's work, and then meet Monday...

HyungR: soudns good

CherylCh: ok what time Mon?

HyungR: any time is ok for me

WarnerF: We can do final edits Monday night and finish up after chat Tuesday, so that we're done

CherylCh: sounds great

HyungR: good

WarnerF: Can we say 8?

CherylCh: yes

HyungR: yep

CherylCh: Ok, see you then. Thanks! Go IU!

WarnerF: Later!

CherylCh left the room (signed off).

The following is a transcript of a chat between Cheryl C., Warner F., and Hyung R. on Sunday, October 2 using TappedIn.

Room: WarnerF_Ofc

HyungR joined the room.

WarnerF: I did find one or two printed resources, and if I have a chance, I'll try to get over to campus to get ahold of them, but this week's pretty busy.

CherylCh: The few I read I used.

HyungR: Hey guys

CherylCh: I didn't explore much else yet.

WarnerF: I read what you've posted, and it looked pretty good to me

CherylCh: I meant on blended learning but I used them only on sync. and async.

HyungR: sorry I'm late...i had some brats burnin on the Goerge foreman grill

WarnerF: you cook your students?

CherylCh: It was nice enough to grill outside today! CherylCh: I don't understand why they want us to use the discussion forum in the wiki when you can't all "meet" there.

HyungR: i just saw the discussion board on the wiki site...

HyungR: C- i think you had a good idea to put the disadvantages as well as the advantages

CherylCh: I didn't really want to...

WarnerF: So we're evaluating the characteristics, as well as describing them?

CherylCh: I kind of felt like the assignment was to explain the characteristics and give them a positive spin...

CherylCh: but Tony said we should cover both sides of the story.

HyungR: that was the messege

HyungR: i think that placing one or two on each site is fine

WarnerF: I guess that makes sense. It's pretty easy for the characteristic I did this week, except that there isn't much published to back up what I say. The only thing I saw related to business, and suggested tailoring material to fit cultural norms

CherylCh: advantages and disadvantages, if I didn't explain that clearly

HyungR: W i think that you're right.. our descriptions will usually have the advantages imbedded in them.

CherylCh: The total needs to be around 1500 words, so if there are 7 topics, how many words should we think about for each?

CherylCh: Or should we not think that way?

HyungR: we only have to look up the majopr disadvantages

HyungR: I just posted the offline and online portion without the disadvantages.

CherylCh: same here

CherylCh: I can delete the phases part and add disadvantages.

WarnerF: Why not leave the phases in....

WarnerF: there's a good chance that anyone who reads this will skip to lists like that anyway?

CherylCh: Either way is fine. It was very random that I found them.

HyungR: I thought they were fine...i vote to leave them in as well

CherylCh: I don't think I "named" the page right either, but I will look at Tony's directions again. Phases stay.

WarnerF: I didn't "name" my section either, as far as I know...I just used the link from our list in the intro

HyungR: same here

HyungR: for our next step...

CherylCh: I am not sure, but I think there is something else to configure. I put it into the forum questions but I still don't totally understand.

HyungR: should each of us go on to another char...

CherylCh: yes?

WarnerF: I have to say, it's a good thing we've only got one chapter, instead of the original two. I'd never get this done

HyungR: or should we edit the ones we have?

CherylCh: I think we have to get started on both. We only have 10 days to finish the whole thing.

WarnerF: Would it be helpful if we each take another characteristic, and edit someone else's previous posting?

CherylCh: yes and no

WarnerF: that way, we catch each other's mistakes, and can ask for clarification.

CherylCh: I agree on that part...

CherylCh: but I did not read anything about your topics so could we save the editing until we finish all the parts first?

WarnerF: We could...

WarnerF: But our readers won't necessarily have read anything on these topics either...

CherylCh: true. I see your point.

WarnerF: so if we edit them without background knowledge, we'll be able to figure out what makes sense, and what doesn't

HyungR: for the sake of time, perhaps we should each start on another topic...

HyungR: that way we can tackle the changes collectively

CherylCh: first choices?

HyungR: then we can be on the same page with the changes and save time

WarnerF: no preference. I'll talk about the work/learning one in addition to what ever char. you want me to do

CherylCh: Didn't we can that one for some reason? I have it crossed out on my list.

WarnerF: We did- but I think we need to explain why we're not talking about it more

CherylCh: oh, because it was work and not education

WarnerF: exactly

HyungR: should we notify norma and tony via email or will this discussion be okay

HyungR: ?

WarnerF: I think the discussion should be sufficient

CherylCh: I think the copy paste from last week is fine.

HyungR: ok

CherylCh: Is self-pace and live, collaborative learning the same as sync./async.?

CherylCh: Or is it specific to group work?

HyungR: btw- i'll vounteer to post again this week. I think the both of you have more on your schedules

CherylCh: thanks!

WarnerF: thanks, H

HyungR: w-that's the same thing i noticed

CherylCh: Isn't this the idea of blended learning in the first place?

WarnerF: looking at the topics, I think maybe there are really only four categories?

HyungR: sorry, i'm trying to get back to the wiki page and read our c's

CherylCh: W-List them.

WarnerF: sturctured and unstructered learning sounds a lot like off-the shelf vs. custom content

CherylCh: sorry, haven't read anything on either

WarnerF: I'm just going by the titles

WarnerF: self-paced and live collaborative sounds like asynch/synch and blending online/f2f

HyungR: should we just create a sub headings for some of the c's that sound alike

CherylCh: I just skimmed your wiki and LOVE your last line...

CherylCh: Unfortunately, there does not seem to be much research on the subject.

WarnerF: I was going to make it sound better, but I ran out of patience....

HyungR: some sub headings, sorry

CherylCh: S and U learning may be different than the content topic. It sounds more student based to me. I can take it if you want if you don't want to see anything until Friday.

WarnerF: there ISN"T much research

WarnerF: Sounds OK to me.

CherylCh: Go for the work topic, as there is plenty to read.

WarnerF: C- did the article from Dewar explain what they meant by each of these things?

WarnerF: maybe the reference other stuff we could use in our descriptions?

HyungR: So i'll take the self paced topic, unless we got rid of that one

CherylCh: let me skim...

CherylCh: no...

HyungR: i'll be right back guys

CherylCh: it lists them and then goes on to define bl and discuss the interest in it.

WarnerF: I'll read it myself, then, so that I've at least got one reference for everything.

CherylCh: I would like to find the Singh article and see what his/her explanations are.

WarnerF: if nothing else, we can critique the categories

WarnerF: On the other hand, if go by singh,

HyungR: should we set the next meeting time? Thursday?

CherylCh: I just pulled it up and it describes the topics a bit...

HyungR: which topic again?

HyungR: sorry

CherylCh: but it doesn't list them all...

WarnerF: I was thinking the same thing.

WarnerF: in reference to meeting time

HyungR: that way we can edit over the weekend

CherylCh: and it seems like a vs. sy is very much like self-paced, etc.

CherylCh: Ok, I will do my best!

WarnerF: Should we revise the intro, so that it explains that scholars disagree over the characteristics?

HyungR: yeah that sounds good

CherylCh: We still have 2 topics besides what we are covering, I think. I like that idea!

CherylCh: Did you make your proposal for the "big" project idea yet?

WarnerF: Could we take the last two, and explain that they are similar to other topics, or are only different in slight ways?

HyungR: ok, just to clarify...are all three of us researching the last characteristics?

WarnerF: I haven't had a chance to think about the big one

CherylCh: Well, yes, except no on picked teh hideously named "pedagogical models" section.

WarnerF: I didn't see that one in our list

HyungR: hmm...i don't see that one there either C

WarnerF: I'm guessing there's a lot on that topic (relatively speaking)

WarnerF: It's probably safe to say that it's based on a higher-order thinking

WarnerF: constructivist approach

CherylCh: It includes blending constructivism, behaviorism, and cognitivims (Driscoll, 2002)

WarnerF: since it leaves most of the responsibility on the student

CherylCh: ignore spelling errors

WarnerF: I don't see the bahaviourist aspects

WarnerF: although the other two make sense

CherylCh: That topic isn't on our intro so we will need to add it if we want to (or have to) discuss it.

WarnerF: I hate to say it, but it sounds too crucial to leave it out....

WarnerF :-(

CherylCh: Ok, then what did we decide to do for Thursday?

CherylCh: I think I am doing structured and unstructured learning. Right?

WarnerF: I don't think I'll have to work to hard on the work/learning, so I'll tackle the pedagogical models, and if I can't get it done, you guys can help me out?

CherylCh: No way!!!!

HyungR: i'm doing self paced etc.

CherylCh smiles

WarnerF laughs

HyungR: fine...i would feel guilty if i didn;t

HyungR smiles

WarnerF: So we have them all covered?

CherylCh: I guess so.

HyungR: we decided that asynch and synch were in self paced?

CherylCh: They sound quite similar based on the Singh article.http://www.centra.com/download/whitepapers/blendedlearning.pdf

HyungR: ok thanks C

WarnerF: let's use that as our reference, I'll make sure we mention it in the intro,...

HyungR: i;kk add that in there

WarnerF: and then we can reiterate it in those sections

HyungR: sounds good

WarnerF: On another topci....

WarnerF: topic

WarnerF: Hyung and I worked on a project with the 1918 flu for a workshop this summer....

WarnerF: We're trying to figure out if we can incorporate it into the project for this semester....

WarnerF: if we did something interdisciplinary, would you be interested in adding a science component?

WarnerF: then we all turn in one big, interdisciplinary, integrated course proposal at the end of the semester.

CherylCh: Hmmm. That would be interesting. I had some other ideas, but let me think about it. Is our proposal due Wednesday? And can it change?

HyungR: i had no idea it was due Wednesday

CherylCh: I will ask in moodle it can change and if some form of a proposal is due Wed.

HyungR: anyway...thursdy sounds good with me

WarnerF: Thursday works for me. 8 pm?

HyungR: yep

HyungR: C?

CherylCh: fine!

WarnerF: On the final project, I was thinking that I could probably do some sort of reading strategy, as well as a writing...maybe an interactive quiz, or something?

WarnerF: cool, so Thursday at 8.

HyungR: yep

HyungR: thanks for the chat

CherylCh: I don't know how to do any of that. But I'd be willing to try.

HyungR: i have a

HyungR: feeeling

WarnerF: Me neither, but it's an idea that can be adjusted.

HyungR: W is looking in my direction

CherylCh: do you know what to do?

HyungR: sorry the key was stuck

WarnerF: For Social Studies, Hyung and I talked about a map that the kids could mark up, with the data they find...

HyungR: not really, but i know a guy who knows a guy who knows a guy

CherylCh laughs

WarnerF: If I could add a reading/writing part, that would give us the Language Arts,

WarnerF: and with the data, possibly math...

CherylCh: I could add the disease itself and how it affects the body and spreads

HyungR: cool

WarnerF: you took the words right out of my mouth, C!

WarnerF: no comments, hyung...

HyungR smiles

CherylCh: Did you read that novel about the flu epidemic?

WarnerF: which one?

CherylCh: maybe called 1913?

WarnerF: By John Barry? Yeah...

WarnerF: It was great!

CherylCh: That is pretty much my historical knowledge of the epidemic.

WarnerF: Although I'm thinking of a non-fiction book, actually

CherylCh: That would be good for the high-schoolers.

HyungR: well, i still have to plan the week( getting observed) i'll talk to you guys on Thursday. WarnerF: I'll look for the one you're talking about.

WarnerF: Cool. See you later Hyung.

CherylCh: Good night guys!

CherylCh left the room (signed off).

WarnerF: Good night!

HyungR left the room (signed off).

10/2/05 C&W-Let's meet in Warnerf's office in TappedIn @ 8pm. The discussion feature will not allow us to hold the covnersation that we need to have tonight.

10/2/05 Tony says both.

10/1/05 W and H- Do you think we are to discuss only the strengths of the characteristics, or should we include weaknesses as well? Let me know what you think.

The following is a transcript of a chat between Cheryl C., Warner F., and Hyung R. on Tuesday September 27, 2005 using TappedIn.

2005.09.27 18:39:53 Login

Room: WarnerF_Ofc

HyungR joined the room.

CherylCh: ok I am here now

HyungR: hey guys,

WarnerF: hey

WarnerF: Did I miss much in the chat?

HyungR: sorry i had to get off ellum...my mac won't let me be on both

HyungR: no comments on the mac, warner

CherylCh: Only that we are supposed to post all of our discussions on the wiki pages instead of by email

WarnerF: too tired to make fun of you

HyungR: we should post all of our stuff in wiki

WarnerF: oops

HyungR: no prob

WarnerF: So what's our next hurdle?

HyungR: should we think about dividing up the research and then coming together before each of us posts?

CherylCh: It seems like we need to work on the week 6 stuff and then add more to the intro.

CherylCh: I was thinking the same thing.

WarnerF: That works for me.

HyungR: is that the multimedia stuff?

CherylCh: that is week 6 separate from the midterm

CherylCh: Warner, did you get my email yesterday?

WarnerF: With your thoughts on the intro?

CherylCh: W-yes

WarnerF: then yes. I really liked the way your divided stuff up

WarnerF: I thought if we took out my second paragraph, and put in what you had, we'd be in good shape

HyungR: w, did u email my yahoo or school account?

CherylCh: Um, I think you missed an email or else I didn't send it. Will you check it now and see if I sent it?

CherylCh: I sent all through uiuc.

WarnerF: h- I sent it to yahoo

WarnerF: I'll check UIUC right now

CherylCh: I read an article that basically restated what you had already done was correct and my criteria was wrong.

CherylCh: Interesting, but wrong according to Norma.

HyungR: w, hmmm....i've been checking....i don't remember getting it

CherylCh: I know the attachment is called warner intro.

WarnerF: I see it. All of that sounds OK to me. Thanks for doing the reference-checking

HyungR: hold on for just a sec guys...i'm checking my email accounts

CherylCh: Should we divide the work by the 8 characteristics listed? Let's give Hyung all the hard ones since he can't find the email.

WarnerF: I think that's the best idea i've heard all day

WarnerF smiles

CherylCh: How is Africa?

WarnerF: OK- it turns out that high schoolers know even less than middle schoolers

CherylCh: Excellent.

HyungR: C, i can still see what you're writing :)

WarnerF: I'm doing a lot of read-alouds,

CherylCh: Did you look at the Tire Tracks site? I was looking at it today and it has a ton of resources.

WarnerF: I keep meaning to check it out. Right now, I'm still trying to stay a day ahead of the kids...I'm back to 12 hour days in the building, and then bringing work home.

HyungR: ok, i have Cheryl's with no attachment and Warner's in my uiuc account

CherylCh: ugh! Are the kids ok at least?

WarnerF: This time of year always hits me like a ton of bricks (you'd think I'd learn!)

CherylCh: H-I will send it to you now, but you still get the hard parts.

HyungR smiles

WarnerF: mostly their OK. I've got one class full of VERY sophomoric sophomores

CherylCh: What email address should I use?'

HyungR: me or warner?

CherylCh: you

HyungR: uiuc, i guess. to keep everything in order

HyungR: thanks C

CherylCh: ok, but what is it? I had you two nicknamed together but not separately

WarnerF: tweedle dum and tweedle dee?

HyungR: hyungro@uiuc.edu

WarnerF: (I'm tweedle dee!)

HyungR: do you see what i have to put up with?

HyungR: C, are u sure u wnat to joing up with us? jk

WarnerF: I don't know about you two, but if I don't laugh my way through this course, I'll need to book myself a padded room

CherylCh: I sent the email by the way.

CherylCh: W-Are you in the accelerated program?

HyungR: me too...C, i'll check now

WarnerF: I would not have called that extra course fun

CherylCh: There have to be easier courses for you to move up with, but I do feel like I have learned a lot of things I can actually apply.

CherylCh: Are you both going to graduation in May?

WarnerF: I'll probably be in town, unless it's the same weekend as a wedding that I'm in

CherylCh: May 14, Mother's Day weekend.

WarnerF: I'd like to go, and see everyone

WarnerF: I'll be there

ErikP joined the room.

CherylCh: ok I am back. I told you he's quick

CherylCh: Who is our new friend?

WarnerF: I'm impressed

ErikP: I'm just trying to figure this space out.

WarnerF: cool

WarnerF: we're using it to put together a group project for a grad course we're taking

ErikP: How do you set up an office?

WarnerF: It's been awhile, but I think it's through the registration process

CherylCh: hmmmm. It has been a while. The help desk is very helpful.

ErikP: I need one for a discussion I'm hoping to host tomorrow afternoon.

WarnerF: have you tried the help desk? they're usually pretty good

ErikP: I'll ask the help desk. Thanks.

WarnerF: no problem. Sorry we couldn't be more help

HyungR: hehe...C, what were you comments on the 2nd paragraph?

CherylCh: I have to pull it up, hold please...

WarnerF: I like the way your reworded it

CherylCh: I just changed it from the business wording that Warner had to something much more generic.

HyungR: yeah, good idea...W, does get a little technical sometimes :)

WarnerF: I like the flow of it, though. plus it gives us more room to expand

ErikP left the room.

CherylCh: that was odd for someone just to pop in, don't you think?

WarnerF: very strange

HyungR: yep

HyungR: wait, can he pop back in?

WarnerF: We don't have a way to lock others out

CherylCh: I think so, but he only sees what he is here for

WarnerF: he figured out how to get an office though. He's online in his office.

WarnerF: I say next time, he gets to bring the food

CherylCh: I am glad we could help him. :-)

CherylCh: Maybe we should go to his office and ask how he set it up.

WarnerF: It's a thought

CherylCh: ok, can I work on synchronous and asynchronous communication methods?

WarnerF: anyway...

WarnerF: sure

HyungR: sounds good

CherylCh: any first choices for either of you?

WarnerF: I think custom vs. off the shelf content could be interesting

HyungR: which one is more efficient?

CherylCh: yours Warner!

WarnerF: we should all probably take two and work on the others together

CherylCh: ok

CherylCh: Hyung do you have a first choice?

HyungR: no

WarnerF: I'm wondering if we really need to talk about the learn and work one, though, since that probably applies to busines

CherylCh: great point - Should we delete it from the intro?

WarnerF: Maybe we should just mention that it exists but isn't a factor for K-12?

CherylCh: good

HyungR: sure.

HyungR: there are only 4 topics then, tight?

HyungR: right?

WarnerF: I'll look into it briefly, so we can cite a source that backs us up on it

CherylCh: by the way, we should be having these discussions in wiki "discussions" so they can see that we are actually working

HyungR: cut an paste

HyungR: ?

HyungR: if you want I can cut an paste some of the transcript and post it onto the dicussion

WarnerF: that would be great.

CherylCh: ok

HyungR: i'll have to do that tomorrow

CherylCh: Remaining topics to either collaborate or divide:

WarnerF: So, with the one point cut out, that leaves 3 for each of us, with one that we all do?

CherylCh: I only count 7 now total

CherylCh: 2 for each and one collaborative?

WarnerF: I think we can do that.

HyungR: ♣

HyungR: ♣

HyungR: ♣

HyungR: ♣

HyungR: ♣

WarnerF: ?

CherylCh: What is that?

CherylCh: a lucky 3-leaf clover?

WarnerF: the four of clubs?

HyungR: i tried to cut and paste

HyungR: the bullet points from the intro

WarnerF: I think you have to wait for the transcript to be e-mailed to you

WarnerF: oh, i see

CherylCh: good attempt

HyungR: my bad

WarnerF: The final thing is due on the 12th, right?

HyungR: off and online learning

CherylCh: yes. That doesn't give us much time as far as I am concerned

CherylCh: Is that your choice or are you listing them

CherylCh: ?

HyungR: ♣

HyungR: arrgghh

WarnerF: We will be a bit crunched. Can we meet one evening next week ready with our first one?

HyungR: i'm trying to list them

WarnerF: Why don't we put the list on the wiki (it'll make them happy) and then just sign up for them there

CherylCh: Either Sunday night or Thursday night next week?

WarnerF: I personally don't have a preference about any of the others

HyungR: W and C, which one do you have again...i/'m trying to determine which one to reserach

WarnerF: Either is good for me

HyungR: ?

WarnerF: I've got custom or off the shelf content

CherylCh: Does the self-paced,etc go with sync/async? I'm sync/async.

CherylCh: I have no preference for the others either.

WarnerF: hyung says he's having trouble typing on the white board at the moment

WarnerF: (I think he cut himself with the scissors...all that cutting and pasting)

HyungR: ok, finally...i have off and online learning

HyungR: when are we meeting again

WarnerF: If we could be ready to go with our first bits on Sunday night,

HyungR: ?

CherylCh: What is your first bit H?

WarnerF: then we could have all of the next week on the second

WarnerF: with several days to put the final touches in place

HyungR: online and offline learning

CherylCh: I like the timeline.

HyungR: ok, but i have to go downtown on sat...getting rehap onmy ankel

HyungR: ankle

WarnerF: That's Ok...

WarnerF: I'll only have sunday to work on it,

CherylCh: Sunday after 8 sometime?

WarnerF: but if I spend the afternoon, then I'll be ready by sunday night

HyungR: sounds ok

WarnerF: where do we meet? I've not really done the wiki chat thing

HyungR: well, i'll see how the editing goes on the trascript, but should we saw Ti for now, WArnerF's office

HyungR: ?

CherylCh: If we go to the wiki and click on our chapter, there is a discussion board

HyungR: ok

HyungR: i'll post this chat there

WarnerF: the discussion board works for me then, and if we don't like it, we can come back here, then cut and paste again

CherylCh: Did we pick our second topic? Or should we do that on Sunday night?

HyungR: i thought there were 4 topics

WarnerF: let's tackle that sunday night...we can keep our eyes open for related stuff as we search for the first one, then we can help each other out

HyungR: ok sounds good

CherylCh: fine with me. what time on Sunday? At 8, or later? I prefer before 10.

HyungR: 8 is good with me

WarnerF: definitely before 10....

WarnerF: 8 should be good

HyungR: alright, thanks guys...this group is a lot more relaxed than my previous ones

CherylCh: ok, and if we aren't done, we are on our own timeline at this point so it is no big deal

HyungR: ok good night...see you on sunday

CherylCh: Mali or Ghana?

WarnerF: I could go on with this all night

WarnerF: Ghana, and the trading empires

CherylCh: It is a good break.

WarnerF: I think we'll do a semantic map

CherylCh: Did you talk about the stools yet, or is that in Mali?

CherylCh: Stools to sit on/

WarnerF: I'm not sure, but I'll look it up, since I have to cover them both

CherylCh: It's not a real exciting curriculum. Do you cover South Africa? We read a book called "Waiting for the Rain" that details apartheid. I can send you a copy and then 200 more if you like it. We dropped it this year.

CherylCh: Are you posting the intro into the wiki?

WarnerF: I'll see if we've got it in the book room. We spend a pretty good chunk of time on South Africa

WarnerF: I can if you want me to

WarnerF: Do I need to reformat the references?

CherylCh: Go for it. The links you had originally? Maybe, or maybe not until we post them in the reference section later? I have no opinion either way.

WarnerF: other than my own, that is?

WarnerF: cool. I'll take care of it.

WarnerF: I"ll talk to you all on Sunday! Good night!

CherylCh: "See" you Sunday.

CherylCh left the room (signed off).

WarnerF left the room (signed off).

HyungR left the room (signed off).