Talk:Beekeeping/Leading practices

Beekeeping leading practices authors and history
= From Wikipedia:Talk:Beekeeping leading practices =
 * 2005-10-14 00:40:27 User:Evilphoenix m (rvv)
 * 2005-10-14 00:40:00 User:141.153.212.205
 * 2005-09-27 02:42:06 User:Shoefly (→All beekeepers)
 * 2005-09-26 17:29:25 User:WikidSmaht
 * 2005-08-27 05:34:45 User:69.142.2.68 (Fix spelling and add wikibooks suggestion, on talk page...)
 * 2005-08-27 05:30:27 User:69.142.2.68 (Add chilled brood and did some work on honey feeding. Also emphasize AFB severity.)
 * 2005-08-27 05:24:25 User:69.142.2.68 (Expand on labeling)
 * 2005-08-27 05:21:49 User:69.142.2.68 (Slight re-writing, see talk page)
 * 2005-08-16 04:35:01 User:Leonard G. (→See also - now using template)
 * 2005-05-16 01:46:24 User:Rhombus (→Hobbyist beekeepers - no, it's &quot;feeded.&quot;)
 * 2005-04-27 03:20:51 User:Pugdog m (→Hobbyist beekeepers - grammer fix, omitted word)
 * 2005-04-02 06:16:26 User:FirstPrinciples m (→All beekeepers)
 * 2005-04-02 06:14:51 User:FirstPrinciples (update link)
 * 2005-01-26 14:09:42 User:Rossami m (According to my English style guide, those parens are supposed to be unbalanced.)
 * 2005-01-26 10:05:02 User:MPF m (balancing brackets; typo)
 * 2005-01-20 04:29:04 User:Shoefly
 * 2004-11-30 00:22:33 User:165.68.129.133 (→Commercial beekeepers)
 * 2004-11-30 00:17:17 User:165.68.129.133 (→Hobbyist beekeepers)
 * 2004-11-28 00:37:31 User:68.23.162.231 (→All beekeepers)
 * 2004-11-19 12:26:50 User:Rossami m (reverting the parenthetical notation.  See Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Wiki Syntax)
 * 2004-11-18 22:29:04 User:Wrp103 (→All beekeepers - Please help out by clicking here to fix someone else's Wiki syntax)
 * 2004-11-15 03:01:08 User:Rossami (add GDD)
 * 2004-10-21 02:42:18 User:Leonard G. m (→Hobbyist beekeepers - more on fall requeening)
 * 2004-10-13 05:03:41 User:Leonard G. m (→Hobbyist beekeepers)
 * 2004-10-13 05:03:03 User:Leonard G. m
 * 2004-10-13 05:01:34 User:Leonard G. m (→See also)
 * 2004-10-13 05:00:16 User:Leonard G. m (→Commercial beekeepers)
 * 2004-10-13 04:55:05 User:Leonard G. m (→Hobbyist beekeepers)
 * 2004-09-18 23:38:05 User:Michael Hardy m (→Hobbyist beekeepers)
 * 2004-09-18 23:37:36 User:Michael Hardy m (→Generally Accepted)
 * 2004-08-03 14:08:20 User:Rossami m (restoring the &quot;definition list&quot; format (correctly this time, I hope))
 * 2004-08-03 00:08:43 User:Neckro (fixed markup (entire article was boldface))
 * 2004-04-29 03:31:30 User:Leonard G. m (One more space)
 * 2004-04-29 03:30:25 User:Leonard G. m (Linked top bar hive, added blank lines after paragraphs)
 * 2004-04-27 21:34:36 User:Leonard G. (=Hobbyist beekeepers= (added plug for top bar hive))
 * 2004-04-21 23:11:29 User:Rossami (Start with two hives)
 * 2004-04-21 23:06:46 User:Rossami (supplemental feed)
 * 2004-04-18 01:06:06 User:Rossami m (Like wines, non-blended honeys are described as varietals - not varieties.  (Don't know why))
 * 2004-04-17 04:24:16 User:Korath m (=Commercial beekeepers=)
 * 2004-04-17 04:23:43 User:Korath m (=Hobbyist beekeepers=)
 * 2004-04-17 04:23:17 User:Korath m (18 inches (30 cm) -&gt; 18 inches (45 cm).  (30 cm ~= 12 inches; unsure which figure is correct.))
 * 2004-04-17 04:20:23 User:Korath m (=All beekeepers=)
 * 2004-04-17 04:19:17 User:Korath m
 * 2004-03-09 16:25:23 User:Rossami
 * 2004-03-09 16:09:37 User:Rossami
 * 2004-03-08 01:59:17 User:Angela (unvfd: 6 votes to keep)
 * 2004-03-06 02:44:07 User:Rossami (added Vote for Deletion header)
 * 2003-12-18 00:08:34 User:Rossami m (grammar)
 * 2003-12-18 00:06:16 User:Rossami
 * 2003-12-12 15:26:30 User:Rossami
 * 2003-12-11 22:07:06 User:Rossami (first draft)

From VfD

 * I created it. I don't have the content knowledge to finish the page and based on the length of time unedited, no one else has interest. Rossami 02:42, 6 Mar 2004 (UTC)
 * Keep. Some information is better than none. Everyking 02:49, 6 Mar 2004 (UTC)
 * Keep. Looks pretty cool. -- Decumanus 02:51, 6 Mar 2004 (UTC)
 * Keep. I'll try to get some more on it. Pollinator 02:57, 6 Mar 2004 (UTC)
 * Move to Wikibooks, surely. Egil 07:08, 6 Mar 2004 (UTC)
 * Keep. BTW: I am doing a research and I plan to write a paper related to bees, so I want to learn more on these subjects. Optim·.· 08:24, 6 Mar 2004 (UTC)
 * Keep. Articles are often unedited for ages. Then someone new comes along, see them, thinks "well this is a very poor show for my favorite subject" and greatly expands them. It's all how the wonderful world of wikipedia works.theresa knott 10:39, 6 Mar 2004 (UTC)
 * Keep. Good start. Except possibly the page title itself, perhaps should be moved to "Beekeeping Recommended Practices" or "Beekeeping Good Practices." Dpbsmith 11:53, 6 Mar 2004 (UTC)

removed content
Anon User:165.68.129.133 removed the following entry from the Hobbyist beekeeper section without explanation or comment. Moved here for discussion. I do not see a reason to have deleted this. Rossami (talk) 02:10, 30 Nov 2004 (UTC)
 * Spray labels with hairspray : Many hobbyist beekeepers make their own labels for honeyjars. The ink on homemade labels often does not hold up well to routine use. Spray the page of labels with hairspray before applying them to the jars.


 * My reaction to this has been that it is off topic - certainly not related to beekeeping or honey preparation leading practices, but it did not look worth the trouble of removing. I'm glad someone finally did it. Leonard G.

Wikibooks
I seriously think this belongs on WB, not becuase it's unencyclopedic, but because it whould be better if added to a bee-keeping Wikibook with refs from Wikipedia articles that should stay here. RfC. Thanx 69.142.2.68 05:37, 27 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Please note that Wikibooks already has a large, home-grown, wikibook entitled Beekeeping. Uncle G 14:27:52, 2005-09-05 (UTC)
 * I wouldn't necessarily say it was a large Wikibook, but it does have some frame work up to become a large wikibook, and hopefully it has some potential. So far it seems as if I have been the main contributing author, with help from a few other individuals. Unfortunately, life happens, and I simply have not had any real free time to add anything of merit, so I have put my editing on hold. However, plenty more content is needed, so if someone wants to port this over to beekeeping, by all means please do so.--Artic 17:01, 7 September 2005 (UTC)

Housel positioning
The text below had been a separate article. It was merged with Beekeeping but did not really fit there. If it fits in Wikipedia, I think it might fit best here.

However, I'm adding it for discussion on the Talk page before we include it in this article because I have a large portion of skepticism about this particular technique. I wrote a paper about 2 years ago on Housel positioning. The existence of the theorized center comb has never been independently confirmed. Housel reports finding it in feral colonies but other beekeepers looking at other feral colonies find no such pattern. Furthermore, a 3-D model of such a comb shows that it would either take an inordinately greater amount of wax than the center structure of any other comb or that it would result in a flat-bottomed cell - which would be a sub-optimal use of volume and different than all other comb. While Housel's theory has been published, it has not been confirmed and is generally considered to be a fringe theory by most bee researchers. Should this be added to the article and if so, where? Rossami (talk) 05:14, 25 September 2005 (UTC) Recent research by Michael Housel has resulted in a new trend in comb positioning, called Housel positioning. Housel positioning more closely mimics the arrangement of cells created by wild honeybees. Practicioners of Housel positioning have found it to result in larger cells in the outer combs of a Langstroth hive (thus allowing more honey storage), decreased bee stress, and increased utilization of comb foundations in general.