Talk:Autistic Survival Guide/Preamble

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"The central premise behind these works is the fact that the compulsory school system is designed to "socialise" children into the work force by making them docile, predictable, willing to take the word of leaders as truth, and dependent upon others for a sense of self worth. This goes a long way towards explaining neurotypical behaviour, and why neurodivergents don't fit in: Neurodivergents simply fail to be socialised this way."

...this paragraph makes so many claims it's making me confused. I can see how one could fit the evidence but there are plenty of counterexamples. Maybe I'm just confused since relative to people online in my "bubble" I haven't interacted with my autism. Anyways, in psychology, there's an acronym used to analyze theories: TestableEvidenceApplicationsConstructvalidityUnbiasedPredictivevalidity. (Although now that I'm researching, there's this one article about DescribeEvidenceApplicationsLimitations.)

Claims/Describe:

The school system is designed to make NTs become docile, predictable, willing...truth, dependent...worth

NDs fail to become --> why NDs don't fit in

Testable: The claim is a "yes/no" question regarding the design of the school system. One could experiment with school designs and establish that one has a greater effect than the other, but establishing intent seems harder. However, the adjectives comparing NT and ND in general are more easily tested. (The sentence is not specific about which school system is being talked about, but it's that likely more context exists somewhere else.)

Evidence: Since this is an intro, idk, haven't reached the probable evidence part yet. It feels like there's definitely some amount of truth but there are definitely plenty of counterexamples. It's easy to argue either way, so idk.

Applications: It's being used to explain why NDs don't fit in.

Construct validity: The "self worth" measure is self reported so that would always have small inaccuracies. "Docile, Predictable, Willing" seems hard to measure in a general way. "Fitting in" seems hard to define (and measure). And I think "predictable" kinda has a subtly different meaning, closer to societal expectations or smth instead of

Unbiased: Again, idk the evidence yet. Altho... while NDs generally have better social skills [citation needed {joke}], and intuitively one would feel that this would result in an increased "fitting in", the adjectives that "socialized" stands for seem to have a negative tone? Hmm

Predictive validity: It can help but there's going to be a significant amount of error/counterexamples.

ugh i'm writing way too much i give up AltoStev (discuss • contribs) 22:29, 19 April 2023 (UTC)