Cookbook talk:Hot Water Crust Pastry

Recipe discussion
Has anyone actually had success with this recipe? I think someone might have messed things up when converting between volumes (i.e, cups) to weights (the current ounces). I tried using this recipe recently and the crust was way too soft; it wouldn't hold any sort of shape. Other recipes on the Internet have a much larger ratio of flour and lard to water. For instance, this recipe uses 16 oz flour, 6 oz lard and 3.5 oz milk. That's about a 6:1 ratio of flour:liquid, compared to the current 1:1 - which I think is a glaring disparity. Perhaps someone who's successfully made a hot water crust pastry before should look at this recipe? 72.214.251.20 (talk) 01:58, 10 April 2008 (UTC)
 * I have and it works well. The ratio is 1 part fat, 2 parts flour and 2 parts water by weight. Milk is completely inappropriate for a pork pie - particularly a Melton Mowbray pork pie. I suspect very strongly that was a genteel recipe that tried to put a middle class twist on a working class disk. Note that the 1 to 2 ratio of fat to flour produces a slightly greasy pie. That is perfect for a traditional raised pie but is not in keeping with modern fads. The other thing about traditional hot water pastry is it takes longer to cook than short crust or flaky pastry.
 * I was taught to make hot water pastry by dumping the flour straight into the boiling fat-water and stirring like crazy. It works! In 10 seconds there is a ball of perfect pastry. As a side note, a TV chef demonstrating the method said, "This will only take a second so watch carefully. Don't look away!" Then just as he tipped the flour into the fat water mixture, the idiot director cut to a close up of the chef's face and when we next saw the saucepan a couple of seconds later it was all done. So the first time I actually saw it made was when I tried it myself. Easy as. OrewaTel (discuss • contribs) 22:09, 25 September 2021 (UTC)

Hot water crust pastry authors and history
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 * 2005-11-24 07:22:37 User:Telestylo (Americanized language and added move to mikibooks tag)
 * 2004-11-14 18:57:40 User:BadDoggie (Additional info for vegges)
 * 2004-10-12 06:22:14 User:Man vyi m (cat:)
 * 2004-10-10 18:31:20 User:Man vyi m (cat:)
 * 2004-07-29 10:13:19 User:Burschik