Cookbook talk:Eating for Health

IMO there are no "food enemies" as such. Those listed are essential to health. Even LDL, the "bad" cholesterol, is essential to certain metabolic functions. It causes problems when the level is too high or the ratio of LDL to HDL is too high even when the overall cholesterol level is "acceptable". Perhaps it should be emphasized that any nutrient taken in excess is bad. Even vitamins are toxic or have unpleasant side effects when taken in large amounts. CyberMaus 20:55, 8 Sep 2003 (UTC)
 * I agree. A book on healthy eating should concentrate on good and bad diet, not good and bad foods Theresa knott

Charred meat?
Can the carcinogenic (free radicals?) effect of eating charred/browned meat be countered by ingesting antioxidants (such as tea) ?

Charred/browned meat is yummy and it would be a shame to avoid it unnecessarilly Irrevenant 21:48, 7 November 2005 (UTC)


 * It seems so... but ingesting the antioxidants and skipping the charred meat would be even better. AlbertCahalan 20:14, 22 April 2006 (UTC)


 * I agree, I would hate to have to give up seared or browned meats. I don't think the carcinogens produced during normal cooking are significant enough to warrant total removal from one's diet. 64.238.163.200 21:33, 22 July 2006 (UTC)

e coli
I am skeptical of the statements made here about organic foods, e-coli and irradiation. I have read reports that ecoli on uncertified organic farms are higher than on commercial farms, but that on certified farms this level is only somewhat higher than commercial farms (characterized by the staff conducting the study as "not significant"). Even so, this does not directly lead to the conclusion that it is "important" for these organic foods to be irradiated. Irradiation has also been accused of negative side effects (though it does have the approval of the FDA). Futhermore, the danger from ecoli is much higher from meat products, but the current wording singles out organic produce. I do think a general-purpose e-coli warning is probably appropriate... but this is not it. Kellen T 23:33, 12 December 2005 (UTC)


 * I got rid of it, even though I mostly agree with it. It didn't fit well. The 600 degree claim was misleading, because there is no single temperature at which bacteria suddenly all die. As far as food dangers go, bacteria are severely underestimated by most people, but e coli isn't anywhere near being the main danger. (my father is a food microbiologist with his doctorate, so you can be sure I've had far more education about the matter than would be normal) The danger from meat products would be much higher if people treated meat and vegetables the same. Few people eat raw meat though, so vegetables are quite dangerous in actual use. The main danger with meat is that some idiots will handle cooked meat with the same dishes that were used to handle it when raw. Many people are also careless about faucet handles. People don't even think about vegetable contamination. They eat raw vegetables, sometimes without even a rinse. AlbertCahalan 21:41, 22 April 2006 (UTC)


 * Food irradiation is an excellent process. It is always used on spices. On other foods it is not used, because bomb-driven hysteria resulted in a mandatory label that looks rather scary. Spices are exempt from the labeling requirement. The dangerous chemical changes caused by food irradiation are the same as those caused by cooking; one can not eliminate all risk. We cook food. Sometimes cooking is far worse than irradiation. Failure to irradiate and/or cook food can hurt you too, via mold toxins for example, so you have to pick your poison. AlbertCahalan 21:41, 22 April 2006 (UTC)

The article states lettuce as being nutritionally worthless
Researching this I discovered that according to www.nutritiondata.com iceberg lettuce actually receives a score of 4.9/5 nutritional rating, therefore, being one of the more nutritional foods available.

MSG Instead of Salt?
Whilst adding salt to food is definitely not very healthy, using MSG as a substitute doesn't seem like a very good idea, considering its bad reputation for destroying neurons in the brain.


 * Of course salt is healthy just as long as you don't eat too much, it, like every edible substance has some stuff that the body needs, and table saly has what I think is called iodine. Stating otherwise is blatant and enthusiastic asshattery, douchebaggery, and POVism. This is the kind of thing a former MSG enthusiast would say.

Healthful?
Is there some specific reason not to use "healthy"?
 * Ditto. --Swift (talk) 00:24, 6 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Technically healthful is correct usage, but in everyday English, healthy means the same thing.

Deep Fried Mars Bars
This cookbook links to the recipe for Deep Fried Mars Bars 4 times. I have been dieting for some time and I remember when I first started reading about junk food and then getting a very horrble feeling in my entire being untill I ate what I had read about. Therefore this is a horrible cookbook that needs to be altered. --203.118.177.19 07:07, 3 November 2007 (UTC)

Most of this information is worthless
Whoever said that MSG destroys neurons is a crazy freak. People complain about Chinese food 'cause it has MSG, but there's more MSG in an Italian meal than a fast-food Chinese, and people don't complain about Italian food syndrome. Plus, whoever wrote this says we should boil meat? What kind of lunatic boils a steak? This article is worthless.

carrots
if you eat too many carrots your skin will turn orange. just look at a former WWII RAF pilot and you'll see. lol i was kidding no i wasn't.

Well carrots are very very healthy but I hate carrots and nuts because I'm allergic and someone else in the world is also allergic to them so don't tell us that we should eat them to be healthy Lorraine Lorreta (discuss • contribs) 05:50, 30 May 2020 (UTC)

Olive oil junk science
Olive oil is not harmful when heated, for crying out loud. That's one of the more ridiculous myths out there. Some sources: http://scienceornot.net/2012/09/15/is-it-safe-to-cook-with-olive-oil/ and http://healthimpactnews.com/2014/myth-buster-olive-oil-is-one-of-the-safest-oils-for-frying-and-cooking/